Oslo, Norway - Car bombed??????

[mrsleeve]

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hahaha . You have to be anti social like me to really enjoy being out that far though. and if you have a real job that you have to drive too, it can get to be a big PIA, my line of work lets me live like a retired person when I am off.

[Fusion]

It's funny how everyone in the media (and here, and facebook comments) never had the slightest thought it could be done by a blond blue eyed perfect arian :D

[Dozyproductions]

It's funny how everyone in the media (and here, and facebook comments) never had the slightest thought it could be done by a blond blue eyed perfect arian :D

Thats right because of course there hasn't been a huge Islamic immigration to Europe lately and that they haven't been the ones making the headlines during terrorist attacks. /sarcasm.

Really tired how PC people can get.

[mrsleeve]

It's funny how everyone in the media (and here, and facebook comments) never had the slightest thought it could be done by a blond blue eyed perfect arian :D

well thats odd considering early on there were 2 Islamic groups claiming responsibility!!!

What were we supposed to deduce before the real guy come to light?????

[joshh]

that is horrifying... like, the most horrifying thing I've heard in some time.

in related news, it's amusing how now that it's known that the perpetrator was a norwegian right-wing nationalist, it's "this one really crazy guy" instead of "those muslims", and there's no international call to hunt him and people like him THE SAME WAY as terrorists, in Norway and other countries with right-wing extremist issues (cough tuscon)

Interesting, seems more like a Bill Ayers moment to me. You know left wing bombings and all.

[kronus]

Interesting, seems more like a Bill Ayers moment to me. You know left wing bombings and all.

really? how?

maybe you should read his interview with himself and his manifesto. (second is a word document)

[joshh]

really? how?

maybe you should read his interview with himself and his manifesto. (second is a word document)

Social Revolution. Weather Underground, Bill Ayers. It's a perfect match.

Edit: You think Neo Nazis are on the right correct? Because that's what media and conventional "wisdom" says.

Edit: The far right is absolute anarchy. The far left is Totalitarian Government.

[mrsleeve]

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Josh some people have not read that book, and most dont understand why there is "a right and left" in the 1st place.

[joshh]

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Josh some people have not read that book, and most dont understand why there is "a right and left" in the 1st place.

It's a perfect description.

I really don't want this thread to go down that route anyways. Just pointing out that what people have been taught to think isn't really how it is much of the time.

I hope this fucker fries.

[kronus]

Social Revolution. Weather Underground, Bill Ayers. It's a perfect match.

Edit: You think Neo Nazis are on the right correct? Because that's what media and conventional "wisdom" says.

Edit: The far right is absolute anarchy. The far left is Totalitarian Government.

Breivik frequently referred to himself as conservative, strongly Christian, and right-wing. Those are the things I expected you to understand from the references I listed, but I guess I have to spoon-feed it to you.

[joshh]

Breivik frequently referred to himself as conservative, strongly Christian, and right-wing. Those are the things I expected you to understand from the references I listed, but I guess I have to spoon-feed it to you.

You have the same media driven idea of what a "right winger" is. A far right winger wants no Government. You go toward Conservatism you get less Government. You keep going and you get Libertarianism. Very small Government. You keep going you get Anarchy. No Government.

Communism and Nazism are sister ideas. The governing ideas are totalitarian in their implementation. Both very large Government in foundation. And Socialism is just a few steps down from both Nazism and Communism. The fact that Hitler and Stalin hated each other has absolutely nothing to do with the way those Governments ran. Or the idea that Hitler was a Christian. He used the word "God" to give himself power.

Neo-Nazi (the ones that support real Nazism)=far leftist.

[kronus]

I was relating to you the affiliations this guy used to describe himself. Are you asserting that he was incorrect about what conservatism is?

[joshh]

I was relating to you the affiliations this guy used to describe himself. Are you asserting that he was incorrect about what conservatism is?

You're trying to pigeon hole a couple things he said in place of reading everything and judging on all the rest of the information.
The guy was a crazy Neo-Nazi type.

[Kershaw]

my world has been rocked.

neo-nazi hate mongers are more liberal than peace loving everyone get together and smoke pot hippies?

holy shit.

[kronus]

You're trying to pigeon hole a couple things he said in place of reading everything and judging on all the rest of the information.
The guy was a crazy Neo-Nazi type.

so would you say he was really liberal or really conservative?