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    Is Cain still electable?

    After his latest "Don't blame Wall Street. If you don't have a job and you aren't rich, it's your own fault" comment?

    I'm quite sure there are plenty of voters out there who would take great exception to that. It sure is easy when you've "made it" to point the finger at those who haven't as deficient in some way.

    I am all about personal responsibility, but to act as though the fact Wall Street fucked up and banks quit loaning and millions are out of work because of it is a non-issue, well my vote just went buh-bye.

    The current GOP field is weaker than NA beer.....

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    Originally posted by mar1t1me View Post
    After his latest "Don't blame Wall Street. If you don't have a job and you aren't rich, it's your own fault" comment?

    I'm quite sure there are plenty of voters out there who would take great exception to that. It sure is easy when you've "made it" to point the finger at those who haven't as deficient in some way.

    I am all about personal responsibility, but to act as though the fact Wall Street fucked up and banks quit loaning and millions are out of work because of it is a non-issue, well my vote just went buh-bye.

    The current GOP field is weaker than NA beer.....
    yeah, this is the 2004 election all over again. Bush vs Kerry? ugh, how about neither?
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      #3
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        #4
        actually i'd wager the vast majority of americans support cain's statement. you can blame the banks etc but it all comes down to personal responsibility.
        most of what's fucked up in our economy is a direct result of federal government interference/mandates.
        “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
        Sir Winston Churchill

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          #5
          His previous ridiculous statements on requiring Muslim appointees to take special oaths to already made him unelectable.

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            #6
            ^

            I believe he has retracted that stance



            Yes, still top runner for if the 3 I would actually like to support, all though he is number 3 on my list
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              #7
              I truly wish there was at least one decent GOP candidate so that if Obama were to lose, it wouldn't be some crazy, religious, homophobic running our country.
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                #8
                Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
                most of what's fucked up in our economy is a direct result of federal government interference/mandates.
                I'd argue it was a LACK of GOOD regulation.

                The Bush administration tried on numerous occasions to institute new regulations for Freddie/Fannie (starting in April 2001) but guys like Barney Frank said, "Nah, they are good. THis is just a bunch of scare tactics."


                Cain was never electable.

                Paul could be electable except for his foreign policy/isolationism stance, and that he looks like your grumpy neighbor.

                I'd like to see a Christie/Paul ticket. But not gonna happen.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by gwb72tii View Post
                  actually i'd wager the vast majority of americans support cain's statement. you can blame the banks etc but it all comes down to personal responsibility.
                  most of what's fucked up in our economy is a direct result of federal government interference/mandates.
                  Government interference in terms of bailouts for bank cronies for sure, but small business owners say regulations aren't to blame.

                  It's a lack of demand. Why? Because fewer people have any extra money. Why? Because there aren't nearly as many good paying jobs as there used to be. Why? Because the desire for more, more, more money has driven production out of the US. The rich get richer.

                  I am personally responsible, but banks weren't/aren't. Yet their bosses feel no pain. They need to make themselves look better on paper, so they casually fire 30,000 workers and offset their pain onto the gov't unemployment rolls after being loaned billions upon billions by the same government. You can't argue that it's kind of fucked up!

                  And yeah, I'd forgotten about his fear of Muslims......that statement was truly asinine.

                  Bachmann has shot her own ass, as has Perry....

                  Then again, the insanity of spending millions of your own (and others) money to buy yourself a job that pays $350K has never been more profound.
                  Last edited by mar1t1me; 10-06-2011, 12:02 PM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mar1t1me View Post
                    Government interference in terms of bailouts for bank cronies for sure, but small business owners say regulations aren't to blame.

                    It's a lack of demand. Why? Because fewer people have any extra money. Why? Because there aren't nearly as many good paying jobs as there used to be. Why? Because the desire for more, more, more money has driven production out of the US. The rich get richer.

                    I am personally responsible, but banks weren't/aren't. Yet their bosses feel no pain. They need to make themselves look better on paper, so they casually fire 30,000 workers and offset their pain onto the gov't unemployment rolls after being loaned billions upon billions by the same government. You can't argue that it's kind of fucked up!
                    You first link is weak at best, and very convenient. If the economy was in better shape the SB owners would say they want less gov interference. Their fears and prioroties have shifted. Ask me, when my car is almost out of gas, what my #1 priority is and I will say, "get more gas," not "I think I need an oil change", which may be true but not critical at that particular point in time.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by markseven View Post
                      You first link is weak at best, and very convenient. If the economy was in better shape the SB owners would say they want less gov interference. Their fears and prioroties have shifted. Ask me, when my car is almost out of gas, what my #1 priority is and I will say, "get more gas," not "I think I need an oil change", which may be true but not critical at that particular point in time.
                      Huh? People not spending money is what hurts business. Is that not obvious? Look at why people aren't spending money. How does "regulation" change their buying habits?

                      I own a business. Regulations other than idiotic things like payroll taxes mean nothing to me. Cash flow is everything. People not spending IS the issue.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                        I'd argue it was a LACK of GOOD regulation.

                        The Bush administration tried on numerous occasions to institute new regulations for Freddie/Fannie (starting in April 2001) but guys like Barney Frank said, "Nah, they are good. THis is just a bunch of scare tactics."


                        Cain was never electable.

                        Paul could be electable except for his foreign policy/isolationism stance, and that he looks like your grumpy neighbor.

                        I'd like to see a Christie/Paul ticket. But not gonna happen.

                        Christie is a douche bag, other than taking a hard line with the teachers hes a wolf in sheeps clothing. Hes big on Cap and trade (errr tax) he has raised taxes on the residents of NJ while stumping on lowering them, hes big on 0 care, supports the dream act/amnesty for the illegals, Loves strict gun control, and supports the ground zero Cordoba site, and supposedlly has a staff the 0 would be proud of when it comes to progressives ........................... Really this is the guy you would like to see run. I know your hate for unions, but dont this ass hats hard line with them (yet not firing 1 state employee) be you sole criteria for a presidential run.

                        The 3 I like in this order are Paul (which we know wont happen all tough if he has a chance its this cycle). Johnson his stance on right to life and to legalize drugs makes him unelectable in the main stream R ticket. then Cain. I would like to see rep west make a run at it though.
                        Last edited by mrsleeve; 10-06-2011, 12:53 PM.
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mar1t1me View Post
                          Huh? People not spending money is what hurts business. Is that not obvious? Look at why people aren't spending money. How does "regulation" change their buying habits?

                          I own a business. Regulations other than idiotic things like payroll taxes mean nothing to me. Cash flow is everything. People not spending IS the issue.
                          I Timothy 2:1-2

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                            #14
                            Never was...
                            Im now E30less.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mar1t1me View Post

                              Then again, the insanity of spending millions of your own (and others) money to buy yourself a job that pays $350K has never been more profound.
                              Tells you something about how lucrative the job really is..........
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