Global Warming is over.

[parkerbink]

Not staying here much longer, but move to FL in 1989, before this was an issue (or rather, a KNOWN issue). I stay here now because unlike the non-spawning humans Sleeve was talking about, I am raising 4 kids and they go to some of the best schools in the country so that (unlike most kids these days) can be a productive members of society.



Once my youngest graduates high school in 7yr, we are out of here for sure! Not easy to just pick up your family of 6 and move, the wife is a 4th generation Floridian.



I will be damned if my kids live with me until 25. My oldest is 20 and already going to Spain for an internship abroad, 2.5 years in at FSU with a 4.0 GPA, has a bachelor in 2 majors, a minor, completely self-funded through scholarships, and has ZERO debt. The three others aren't far behind, they all work hard, play hard and say "yessir", "no ma'am". We don't take kindly to whiners, and wonder what is wrong with most parents these days.



Besides, if you look at elevations and flooding, you have to be under 6' ASL to be overly concerned. The reason we live so far inland, and chose property wisely.

Good for you and congratulations!

My three are similar. 24, 30, 32.

Youngest is in Moscow defending her Thesis. (Graduated from ASU Walter Cronkite School of Journalism) & going to the World Cup.

Middle, Graduated Law school at 22, is graduating from Cal State Berkley in July with masters in international law and eldest is the Executive Chef at Espranza in Cabo. (It was in Heartbreak Kid)

Nope, not proud.

[decay]

First, the human race is not a parasite unless you have a twisted world view.

what exactly is twisted about it? you're gonna have to provide a supporting argument here (for once).

[marshallnoise]

Not staying here much longer, but move to FL in 1989, before this was an issue (or rather, a KNOWN issue). I stay here now because unlike the non-spawning humans Sleeve was talking about, I am raising 4 kids and they go to some of the best schools in the country so that (unlike most kids these days) can be a productive members of society.



Once my youngest graduates high school in 7yr, we are out of here for sure! Not easy to just pick up your family of 6 and move, the wife is a 4th generation Floridian.



I will be damned if my kids live with me until 25. My oldest is 20 and already going to Spain for an internship abroad, 2.5 years in at FSU with a 4.0 GPA, has a bachelor in 2 majors, a minor, completely self-funded through scholarships, and has ZERO debt. The three others aren't far behind, they all work hard, play hard and say "yessir", "no ma'am". We don't take kindly to whiners, and wonder what is wrong with most parents these days.



Besides, if you look at elevations and flooding, you have to be under 6' ASL to be overly concerned. The reason we live so far inland, and chose property wisely.

I like you already! I totally appreciate that it is tough to pick up and move. I want out of California, badly. But I have a very sick mother, no siblings and she has to be close to the best healthcare she can get. So I am being as good of a son as I can and seeing her through the last years of her life so she can be comfortable and well taken care of.

I just wonder what people are thinking when they move to New Orleans and worry about flooding or move to Kansas and worry about tornadoes or move to California and worry about earthquakes.

[kronus]

you seem to be struggling to separate the concepts "parasites are a thing that exists in an ecosystem" and "parasites are a bad thing for the ecosystem and should be eliminated".

[marshallnoise]

what exactly is twisted about it? you're gonna have to provide a supporting argument here (for once).

Supporting argument to defend that human life is worth something? Really?

[parkerbink]

Supporting argument to defend that human life is worth something? Really?

If people are useless what about all the help you get in your myriad restore basket case threads?

[marshallnoise]

you seem to be struggling to separate the concepts "parasites are a thing that exists in an ecosystem" and "parasites are a bad thing for the ecosystem and should be eliminated".

I am not struggling with the difference. The language used by certain people that "humans are parasites" is specifically to justify eliminating them. No one uses that phrase in any other context.

[parkerbink]

I am not struggling with the difference. The language used by certain people that "humans are parasites" is specifically to justify eliminating them. No one uses that phrase in any other context.

It seems you are confused.

On the one hand, you seem upset it was suggested people are parasitic.

Then you seem to espouse people are useless.

?????

[decay]

I am not struggling with the difference. The language used by certain people that "humans are parasites" is specifically to justify eliminating them. No one uses that phrase in any other context.

yes they do, and i am one of the people using them in another context.

i'm not calling for genocide or sterilization- you're putting words in my mouth, and the amount of hypocrisy involved with calling me "dishonest" while doing that is incredible.

can you make the argument that humans existing on earth has been a net positive for the planet as an organism?

[gwb72tii]

The bickering continues... :p

We are getting off topic in the off topic lounge lol.

http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/news/floria-and-the-rising-sea

...and for those that refuse to click links...



I grew up in Tampa bay and the barrier islands around Bradenton/Sarasota area were constantly being dredged and dumped on the beach to help keep the sea water out of homes, and me being in the construction industry at the time, we were actually raising beach-front homes in the late 90's early 00's. No joke, made a good living jacking homes up and building new foundations under them. Now the water is rising at a much more accelerated rate and construction can't even keep up anymore. Fortunately I live ~12 miles inland with a 14' elevation, the shop is about 3 miles from the beach, but at 16'. Miami beach is ~6' average.

I don't know much about your local situation, if its seal level rising or land subsiding, but sea levels have been rising for a long, long, long time, and not because of so called man made global warming.
And if you take the time to read through the material it's interesting to note CO2 levels and sea level have no correlation.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/12/70-scientific-papers-say-todays-sea-level-change-indistinguishable-from-noise/

[kronus]

I am not struggling with the difference. The language used by certain people that "humans are parasites" is specifically to justify eliminating them. No one uses that phrase in any other context.

you're struggling with the difference in the same breath as claiming you're not

[marshallnoise]

If people are useless what about all the help you get in your myriad restore basket case threads?

You are lost on what I was saying. I was saying, "Why should I have to defend the idea that people have value?" Isn't it obvious? It doesn't need any defending.

[marshallnoise]

It seems you are confused.

On the one hand, you seem upset it was suggested people are parasitic.

Then you seem to espouse people are useless.

?????

You aren't reading correctly. I am far from confused.

[parkerbink]

We have millions of bacteria in our bodies we need to survive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria

They are considered parasites.

Just saying.

[decay]

You are lost on what I was saying. I was saying, "Why should I have to defend the idea that people have value?" Isn't it obvious? It doesn't need any defending.

"i don't need to provide supporting arguments because i'm automatically right"