Global Warming is over.

[decay]

i think i like the word "unique" a little more than "special", but let's not go down the rabbit hole on that.

the reality is that we're a variant of primate that, on a geological scale, just showed up a little while ago, and we are actively destructive to the environment we depend on to sustain us.

maybe we are talking about the difference between "sentience" and "intelligence" here, because you can have the former without the latter.

[4x4_e30]

I'm putting my money on cold fusion. If we can't figure that out within the next 20 years, by my calculations we're fucked no matter what.

Unlimited free energy, think about it. Kind of hard to wrap my head around personally. Things that used to be impractical or inefficient will be done on a large scale with brute force. The only limiting factor will be material sciences. Technological advancement will go through the roof. Pair that with automation and AI, it is quite possible for humanity to completely eradicate poverty and hunger, while also preserving our environment. An ideal situation would be off planet mining, Mars colonization, etc.

It's too bad we'll probably end up nuking each other to death fighting over that technology before it has the chance to save the planet.

[cale]

I'm putting my money on cold fusion. If we can't figure that out within the next 20 years, by my calculations we're fucked no matter what.

Unlimited free energy, think about it. Kind of hard to wrap my head around personally. Things that used to be impractical or inefficient will be done on a large scale with brute force. The only limiting factor will be material sciences. Technological advancement will go through the roof. Pair that with automation and AI, it is quite possible for humanity to completely eradicate poverty and hunger, while also preserving our environment. An ideal situation would be off planet mining, Mars colonization, etc.

It's too bad we'll probably end up nuking each other to death fighting over that technology before it has the chance to save the planet.

I'm not in the camp who thinks "we're fucked" wrt AGW. Some people certainly are, global conflicts over food, arable land and water will become a greater issue for those with less and will cause major conflict. The developed world however, primarily North America will find a way around anything but the most catastrophic events.

[E30 Wagen]

interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SZHUHkMYr4

[marshallnoise]

interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SZHUHkMYr4

All it requires is money. Like every liberal solution, just feed it cash. Oh, and do it quickly now!

[marshallnoise]

Here are some more deniers.

https://clintel.nl/brief-clintel-aan-vn-baas-guterres/

Can you believe these people?

[marshallnoise]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/special...hange-n1054791

Here you go. Purge your guilt on the internet!

BTW the responses are the best ever.

[marshallnoise]

where i'm not sure i agree 100% is that we measure intelligence and sentience by our own self-defined metrics

other primates and octopi have demonstrated learning, tool usage and creation, and other tasks that require what we define as intelligence



...absolute yes to this, and if we're not capable of being good custodians to this planet we happened to find ourselves on, are we actually intelligent?

When an Octopus can build an e30...

[ForcedFirebird]

When an Octopus can build an e30...

Bring it on. I must have 8 arms.

[roguetoaster]

where i'm not sure i agree 100% is that we measure intelligence and sentience by our own self-defined metrics

other primates and octopi have demonstrated learning, tool usage and creation, and other tasks that require what we define as intelligence

...absolute yes to this, and if we're not capable of being good custodians to this planet we happened to find ourselves on, are we actually intelligent?

Sure, we define the metric, and so we are, individually at least. But I think we tend to not label things other than humans as intelligent, but rather as showing intelligence, which seems to be a convenient way to label them as showing some aspects of human intelligence, but not at the same level or above. Of course, we sometimes forget that every living thing is intelligent in a unique/specialized way, and probably one that we either can't quite comprehend, or achieve a similar level of ability in, no matter how long we might train.

However, we do seem to really lack the ability to conceive, manage, and resolve problems, to the benefit of the society as a whole, much outside of our individual spheres of habitation. Heck, even ants can do that effecively, so what are we by comparison?

[z31maniac]

All it requires is money. Like every liberal solution, just feed it cash. Oh, and do it quickly now!

This is what the Chinese have used to "seed" clouds for A LONG time. I turned it off once she acted like this was some ground breaking piece of new knowledge.

[gwb72tii]

well apparently this guy didn't get the message about the 97% consensus

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2019/09/a-climate-modeller-spills-the-beans/

[cale]

That website is basically just a mixture of cliche crusty old white man shit for people who suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[gwb72tii]

That website is basically just a mixture of cliche crusty old white man shit for people who suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

i thought i'd link an English speaking website, or do you speak Japanese?

[gwb72tii]

Here's another on that didn't get the memo either.
And just for you cale it's an English speaking website assuming you don't speak Hebrew

https://www.theepochtimes.com/how-climate-change-pseudoscience-became-publicly-accepted_3093372.html