Global Warming is over.

[gwb72tii]

good we can agree ti disagree again

and you can go on believing that if we wrecked the world economy to reduce CO2 emissions 0.08% (20% reduction in anthro CO2 annual emissiosn) the world will be saved

[cale]

1. It doesn't matter if it's half. If your GW theory isn't supported by the data (Which it is isn't), the theory is wrong, period.

2. Math challenged Cale? Your exaggeration about CO2 in the garage is exactly why when you and your friends cry wolf, nobody listens any longer. We are talking CO2 parts per million and you example is goofy

Nope, but it appears you are. You're trying to assert 5% is negligible, based on....what exactly? My example was to point out the importance of accounting for everything. Your approach is ignore the bits you dont like.

Your entire argument revolves around your opinions as a lay-person, and a routinely proven scientifically illiterate one at that. Start posting bullshit articles again, your own ramblings don't even come close.

[gwb72tii]

1. It doesn't matter if it's half. If your GW theory isn't supported by the data (Which it is isn't), the theory is wrong, period.

2. Math challenged Cale? Your exaggeration about CO2 in the garage is exactly why when you and your friends cry wolf, nobody listens any longer. We are talking CO2 parts per million and you example is goofy

[johnadler]

Some food for thought on this topic: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...-warming-real/

[cale]

As I have said many times, if you can’t get over where an article is published and judge it on its own for content, then you are going to ignore half of the argument on climate.

It's not half, it's a few squeaky wheels on a 2 mile long train. AGW and denial of it, is not us vs. them. Deniers are trying to pick apart the efforts of thousands of climate scientists, many of whom do not agree on everything but accept rising global temperatures as a reality.

Ask yourself from a common sense standpoint: co2 is a trace gas, and not even the most potent gas contributing to global warming. Science shows 95%of co2 emissions are natural. Yet man is the driver of warming. It’s beyond absurd. The global warming movement is political which has been shown as well. And you wonder why most people don’t care?

That 95% is part of a natural cycle with natural absorption in the oceans and forests. It's not a matter of common sense, it's a simple calculation. That additional 5% (it's actually less than 4%) effects change, it doesn't just disappear. The problem is folks such as yourself can't understand this, and still think "asking themselves" is a reasonable approach to finding the truth in the matter.

Sit in your garage with your car running and the door cracked enough to let 95% of the exhaust out, let us know how that goes for ya.

[gwb72tii]

Second, gwb72tii. Anthony Watts is an anti-climate blogger who never received a degree. While this alone does not discredit him, it certainly should make one take anything he writes, or publishes, with a grain of salt. He is earning money for his website and opinions from people/companies with a vested interest in his position. Which is why he won't change that position even after stating he would pending the results of a 2011 study. The results were released and disproved his theories on the affect the sun has on warming vs. anthropogenic causes. Instead of accepting the results as he said he would, he tried to discredit the methodologies used and data. Again, watch Merchants of Doubt. That doesn't make him all bad though. He does advocate for clean energy and alternative energy sources.

As I have said many times, if you can’t get over where an article is published and judge it on its own for content, then you are going to ignore half of the argument on climate.

The fact is skeptics cannot get published on sites you may approve of. Editors are part of your "consensus" and also fear career jeopardy if they publish out of "mainstream" studies. Skeptics can’t, for the most part, get peer reviewed for the same reason. This prejudice is widely known.

Watts’ blog is an aggregator of skeptical viewpoints and opinions on climate. Lots of really smart people don’t have degrees. The articles on his website are not his for the most part. Where is your criticism of Al Gore and his pseudo analysis of climate change.

Ask yourself from a common sense standpoint: co2 is a trace gas, and not even the most potent gas contributing to global warming. Science shows 95%of co2 emissions are natural. Yet man is the driver of warming. It’s beyond absurd. The global warming movement is political which has been shown as well. And you wonder why most people don’t care?

[ForcedFirebird]

Interesting info there, I would, however, like to punch that guy square in the face.

Why the hostility? lol


I have a feeling PBS hosts are all trained in the same manner...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciM6wigZK0w

Anyone else keeping tabs on the sun's activity? Lots of days this year without sunspots, 112 of 206 days so far since Jan 1 to be exact...

https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/sunspot-regions

[mbonder]

Interesting info there, I would, however, like to punch that guy square in the face.

[ForcedFirebird]

Worth a watch. I saw it years ago, but also watch the new episodes every Wed night (currently discussions are about particle/quantum theory etc). This came up on my YouTube sidebar and thought of this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztninkgZ0ws

[ForcedFirebird]

...so back to adult conversation, y'all sound like my teenage kids bickering again. :p

[decay]

Yawn. Ok tinkerbell, you're boring me.

yeah, sorry... i guess you'll have to go back to the incel subreddit to entertain yourself.

[E30 Wagen]

Why are you always making an issue of the CO2 controversy?

[gwb72tii]

Here's a shout out to James Hansen, the huckster who started the entire "carbon is the evil" and CO2 is the temperature switch ruse. Today is the 30th anniversary of his testimony on congress on why we were all supposedly doomed and all sorts of scary bull.

Happy 30th

[Mediumrarechicken]

no... i answered based on *what you said*.

Yawn. Ok tinkerbell, you're boring me.

What's so damn funny is that you're so vile that I said the climate is changing and instead of saying something like holy shit!!! What did you say!?!?!, you have to spew more putrid shit and pick apart what I said because I said one cause in an amalgam of causes. Seriously you need to let go of the hate in your heart.

[Schnitzer318is]

This thread never fails to deliver... mud slinging.


First, the human race (as a whole) does fit the definition of a parasitic species in the context of the earth's biological systems. Period. It is not nihilistic to state that, it's realistic. Does the human race do amazingly beautiful things? Of course they do. Should humanity be wiped out because we do some terrible things? Of course not. Although, the Earth's biological systems will make that decision for us since we don't care to listen to it. Will it be soon? No, of course not. Humans are incredibly short sighted.


Second, gwb72tii. Anthony Watts is an anti-climate blogger who never received a degree. While this alone does not discredit him, it certainly should make one take anything he writes, or publishes, with a grain of salt. He is earning money for his website and opinions from people/companies with a vested interest in his position. Which is why he won't change that position even after stating he would pending the results of a 2011 study. The results were released and disproved his theories on the affect the sun has on warming vs. anthropogenic causes. Instead of accepting the results as he said he would, he tried to discredit the methodologies used and data. Again, watch Merchants of Doubt. That doesn't make him all bad though. He does advocate for clean energy and alternative energy sources.