Global Warming is over.

[gwb72tii]

and if you read my post above i said ALL susidies should end

[rwh11385]

Q5, did u know hydroelectric is not a renewable power source?

Ummmmm. Did Glenn Beck claim that from ignorance of the water cycle, or did you make that up?

http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/energy-and-you/affect/hydro.html

[herbivor]

and if you read my post above i said ALL susidies should end

Then say hello to $10 per gallon gas immediately and now solar becomes a pretty viable option. I'm with that.

[Kershaw]

[Fusion]

Ummmmm. Did Glenn Beck claim that from ignorance of the water cycle, or did you make that up?

http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/energ...ect/hydro.html

Well, if the AGW alarmists' projections about less inland/drinking water in certain regions are to become true, POOF, there goes your "renewable" energy source.

[cale]

Ignorance must be a renewable resources because fusion and gwb have no difficulties sustaining this thread.

[gwb72tii]

Ignorance must be a renewable resources because fusion and gwb have no difficulties sustaining this thread.

cale if you took off the blinders you might see something else besides your own prejudices.

[gwb72tii]

Ummmmm. Did Glenn Beck claim that from ignorance of the water cycle, or did you make that up?

http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/energ...ect/hydro.html

guess what my conceited friend. it was specifically omitted in the PNW as a renewable resourse

[gwb72tii]

and if it went to $10, there'd be a LOT more fracking/drilling than today and at last, without the fed sticking its nose in, we'd all actually know what the cost is. we'd reach equilibrium.
what a novel concept for you libs, actual market value without making things fair.

is that a self taken vid kershaw?

[cale]

cale if you took off the blinders you might see something else besides your own prejudices.

You mean more susceptible to believing inaccurate science and easily impressionable? No thanks, I'll keep the blinders and you wear the tin foil hat.

[rwh11385]

Well, if the AGW alarmists' projections about less inland/drinking water in certain regions are to become true, POOF, there goes your "renewable" energy source.

You don't need drinking water to do work and generate power. If you actually cared about better utilization of grey water in the US, smarter toilets, better management of waste and water systems... that's be cool. But this is just another ridiculous excuse for an argument.

A lot of the concern about water supply is its demand for industrial and agricultural processes. It's still going to rain and as long as it rains on an elevated area and runs to a lower one, that potential energy can be transformed into power. You could build one for your home. But shortage of potable water doesn't mean hydroelectric stops being renewable.

guess what my conceited friend. it was specifically omitted in the PNW as a renewable resourse

Because one region's definition of whether to seek to utilize more of it or not changes if the water cycle provides work in the system that adds potential energy to the water. You should know the difference between politics and science... but then again you don't believe in science.

Ignorance must be a renewable resources because fusion and gwb have no difficulties sustaining this thread.

It would.

cale if you took off the blinders you might see something else besides your own prejudices.

Learn about anything from a source other than Drudge and maybe you can be slightly more than useless.

[rwh11385]

and if it went to $10, there'd be a LOT more fracking/drilling than today and at last, without the fed sticking its nose in, we'd all actually know what the cost is. we'd reach equilibrium.
what a novel concept for you libs, actual market value without making things fair.

If gasoline went to $10 a gallon, what good would fracking do? We don't have a developed CNG distribution system for cars or semis, nor the vehicles in any significant quantity. If we cared to develop and purchase bi-fuel vehicles and invest in CNG infrastructure, we'd be better prepared for price spike. And if we all had PHEVs, we could use all that natural gas for power generation for vehicle locomotion... if our outdated grid could handle it - thanks to not keeping up investment in it.

But a huge spike in gasoline price would cripple the nation as we always went along for the cheapest option with zero consideration of the future. Food prices would skyrocket (with diesel in lockstep with gas) and most people would find it challenging to feed themselves. Responding to prices is not overnight and design/development/implementation of different locomotive power sources would take time, killing the economy and starving people in the meantime. I know understanding concepts at anything deeper than a shallow or simple level is challenging for you, but maybe consider the impacts and time to adapt. There's a reason why companies have found alternative inputs for products that were formerly petroleum-based, but the impact was still felt even if it was gradual and to be expected. Intelligent people and companies are continuing this research and development, instead of holding out until it is too late.

Let's hope we continue investing in sustainable and renewable energy technology so that doesn't happen or the US becomes uncompetitive because people would rather wait until a major crisis to adapt.

[mrsleeve]

^
Fracking can be and has been used with great success in the OIL fields too just a fyi


Its one of the many reasons why Peak theory oil is BS

[rwh11385]

^
Fracking can be and has been used with great success in the OIL fields too just a fyi


Its one of the many reasons why Peak theory oil is BS

Fair enough, I haven't heard it referred in use with oil, and don't think that's what gwb was mentioning.


So do you think there is a limitless supply of oil and will always find enough to support our way of life? Does it make sense to base much of our economy, livelihood, and our competitiveness on fossil fuel ? And even with some domestic supply (and Canadian), we are still subject to global demand (and supply control of OPEC). The potential for our system to crumple due to dinosaur juice price spike is frightening.

[u3b3rg33k]

You don't know? Shocking considering how arrogant your responses are.

There is no "oil forms in X years" to go by, especially since there are different forms of usable oils. Ten thousand to one-hundred million years are mentioned, geology is the biggest factor.

That's the angriest "I don't know either" I've ever heard.

Well, if the AGW alarmists' projections about less inland/drinking water in certain regions are to become true, POOF, there goes your "renewable" energy source.

*cough* tidal power *cough*
Oh, and it's not renewable - some day we'll run out of rain. trololololololol

And it's bad enough the Colorado doesn't make it to the ocean. talk about a travesty...