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  • smooth
    E30 Mastermind
    • Apr 2005
    • 1940

    #76
    Originally posted by slaterd
    Because in the english God is still a name. Do you capitalize Santa Claus?
    Take that understanding and re-read the post of mine you're hung up on.
    Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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    • slaterd
      E30 Mastermind
      • Jul 2011
      • 1731

      #77
      Post #?
      Originally posted by Wh33lhop
      This is r3v. Check your vaginal sand at the door.

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      • Turf1600
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2006
        • 9815

        #78
        Originally posted by smooth
        The person posting above you is doing the same thing as Theists but calling it "morals and integrity"
        Yeah, and? Some people don't need a book to know what's right or wrong. "Morals" without understanding are uselsss.
        "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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        • smooth
          E30 Mastermind
          • Apr 2005
          • 1940

          #79
          Originally posted by Turf1600
          Yeah, and? Some people don't need a book to know what's right or wrong. "Morals" without understanding are uselsss.
          The point is that both of your positions, within the context of this thread, only exist relative to one another and outside this thread both are illusionary positions of order.
          Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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          • Turf1600
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 9815

            #80
            Originally posted by slaterd
            Dude, get off this thread, I am the athiest.
            I was here first, bro.
            "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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            • pureaudio
              E30 Enthusiast
              • May 2009
              • 1123

              #81
              Pointless fighting aside...there have been some good posts in here. There was a point made about satisfaction in praying and belonging to a community that religion, not just Christianity, offers. I absolutely agree with that, having a sense of not knowing quite where you belong is extremely wearing on the mind. It has been something that has been on my mind most of the day for months now.
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              • Turf1600
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 9815

                #82
                Originally posted by smooth
                The point is that both of your positions, within the context of this thread, only exist relative to one another and outside this thread both are illusionary positions of order.
                Did you even read my first post? It has to be "illusionary" because without God order must be determined by man and is therefore subject to his judgements.
                "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                • Turf1600
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 9815

                  #83
                  Originally posted by smooth
                  I find it strange that the last two atheists capitalize a reference to a deity they claim to believe does not exist.
                  Why is it strange? It's the appropriate thing to do.
                  "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                  • smooth
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1940

                    #84
                    Originally posted by slaterd
                    Post #?
                    If you read a post that led you to reach a conclusion that I am an adherent to christianity and then later read a post that led you to reach a conclusion that I am an atheist, perhaps it would be best to re-read those posts and try to make sense of them.

                    From reading your posts it seems that you prefer to depend on your own understanding rather than what others tell you, so it seems antithetical to that desire for me to provide you the answers to your confusion.
                    Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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                    • slaterd
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1731

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Turf1600
                      I was here first, bro.
                      Haha;)
                      Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                      This is r3v. Check your vaginal sand at the door.

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                      • Fusion
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3658

                        #86
                        Originally posted by smooth
                        For those interested in what science has to say about the world, there is strong empirical evidence that praying reduces stress and those who pray regularly report higher satisfaction with their life as well as their relationships.
                        And it has also scientifically been proven that the placebo "vitamin pill" treatment works for similar reasons.
                        I agree that it can psycologically help, but it requires talking to an inexistant entity, you have to mentally (not physically) believe in.
                        Not saying praying is wrong or that I would forbid it, just nonsensical for me personally.

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                        • Turf1600
                          R3V OG
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 9815

                          #87
                          Originally posted by smooth
                          For those interested in what science has to say about the world, there is strong empirical evidence that praying reduces stress and those who pray regularly report higher satisfaction with their life as well as their relationships.
                          Prayer is just formalized personal reflection and introspection. Any management book will tell you that these things work. If the business world figured it out then it can't be that complicated.
                          "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                          • smooth
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 1940

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Turf1600
                            Why is it strange? It's the appropriate thing to do.
                            I just find it interesting that people professing to prioritize individual, internal belief structures are consistently not only demonstrating an adherence to what (a largely theistic) society around them deems "appropriate" as well as a need for community.

                            Just in the past few posts we've had a number of atheists pointing out what is the correct way of spelling a deity's "name" and slaterd thinking that both you and he along with he and I should harmonize our beliefs and posts based on whether we are theists or not.

                            Now that's some interesting contradiction once you step back from it and pry at the underlying conceptualization of how things work.
                            Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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                            • Turf1600
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 9815

                              #89
                              Originally posted by smooth
                              I just find it interesting that people professing to prioritize individual, internal belief structures are consistently not only demonstrating an adherence to what (a largely theistic) society around them deems "appropriate" as well as a need for community.

                              Just in the past few posts we've had a number of atheists pointing out what is the correct way of spelling a deity's "name" and slaterd thinking that both you and he along with he and I should harmonize our beliefs and posts based on whether we are theists or not.

                              Now that's some interesting contradiction once you step back from it and pry at the underlying conceptualization of how things work.
                              I can only answer for myself. I think it's respectful to those that believe it. Please don't bundle my beliefs or actions in with those of others.
                              "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                              • slaterd
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1731

                                #90
                                Originally posted by smooth
                                I just find it interesting that people professing to prioritize individual, internal belief structures are consistently not only demonstrating an adherence to what (a largely theistic) society around them deems "appropriate" as well as a need for community.

                                Just in the past few posts we've had a number of atheists pointing out what is the correct way of spelling a deity's "name" and slaterd thinking that both you and he along with he and I should harmonize our beliefs and posts based on whether we are theists or not.

                                Now that's some interesting contradiction once you step back from it and pry at the underlying conceptualization of how things work.
                                Well I read your posts again and again and my reply was correct. You made different scenarios saying that you would like to choose the safe route in case if you are correct or incorrect. Whith that said, you proved my point correct and you are now going on the "attack" because your post proved the flaw in organized religion. And to get this straight, I'm tired of going in circles with you. How about you clear it up and tell us what religion you are if you have one.
                                Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                                This is r3v. Check your vaginal sand at the door.

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