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  • u3b3rg33k
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    • Jan 2010
    • 2452

    #61
    Originally posted by RUFFLZ
    We have to make the defining point of human life at conception.
    Yeah sure, maybe technically it's a parasite, but if you can't tell it apart from a horse fetus, then who gives a fuck?

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    • camshaftgsxr
      E30 Addict
      • Aug 2011
      • 416

      #62
      lol a bunch of dudes arguing what women can do with their bodies...

      because you believe that your religion and your beliefs should be forced on other people that dont want it. i think theres a word for that..

      bigotry
      Last edited by camshaftgsxr; 02-15-2012, 07:59 AM.
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      • cale
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2005
        • 2331

        #63
        And there's a word for people like you...morons.

        Not everyone associates abortion with religion. As for what women do with their bodies sure, it's their choice but that's also my child in there which she chose to take the risk of having when she spread them for me. Yes she has a legal right to get an abortion, I however would be willing to act outside of the law to get retribution for what I consider to be a barbaric act.

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        • camshaftgsxr
          E30 Addict
          • Aug 2011
          • 416

          #64
          Originally posted by cale
          And there's a word for people like you...morons.

          Not everyone associates abortion with religion. As for what women do with their bodies sure, it's their choice but that's also my child in there which she chose to take the risk of having when she spread them for me. Yes she has a legal right to get an abortion, I however would be willing to act outside of the law to get retribution for what I consider to be a barbaric act.
          "I however would be willing to act outside of the law to get retribution for what I consider to be a barbaric act."

          so you are saying you would harm this woman for having a legal abortion of a fetus? thats the most disgusting thing ive heard in a long time. and you should be ashamed to even think that way.

          lemme guess you consider it a baby when the sprem touches the egg? or maybe when the group of cells resembles a baby? or maybe its your property?

          no, its hers until its born

          so fuck you and your supposed right the the group of cells that a woman is carrying in her body, its not your baby its her embyro. you can suck it cause your just a sperm donor until that baby is born.

          the word for you?
          ignorant

          'United States

          In the case of Planned Parenthood of Central Missouri v. Danforth, 428 U.S. 52, 96 S. Ct. 2831, 49 L. Ed. 2d 788 (1976), the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the right to have an abortion, striking the state's requirements of parental consent for minors and spousal consent for married women.

          This is a matter of privacy since a fetus cannot be separated from a woman's body.

          A father must establish his paternity after the birth through DNA testing that can be arranged through court in order to establish parental rights.


          England and Wales

          The foetus (sic) is considered part of the womans body (except in the case of deliberate murder) and therefore the father has no say whatsoever."
          Last edited by camshaftgsxr; 02-15-2012, 09:47 AM. Reason: bolded the important parts
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          • camshaftgsxr
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            • Aug 2011
            • 416

            #65
            heres one for canada

            "1989: Jean-Guy Tremblay of Quebec, filed an injunction against his girlfriend, Chantal Daigle, in attempt to prevent her from obtaining an induced abortion in the 1989 Canadian case Tremblay v. Daigle. The Supreme Court of Canada ultimately ruled that there was no precedent for a man's right to protect his "potential progeny", as a fetus was not found to have a right to life under the Quebec Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms."
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            • camshaftgsxr
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              • Aug 2011
              • 416

              #66
              was this the barbaric act you were thinking of?



              incase my point was missed here it is

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              • Kershaw
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2010
                • 11822

                #67
                we need to encourage abortion.
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                • InuFaye
                  R3VLimited
                  • May 2010
                  • 2221

                  #68
                  How is having a choice a bad thing?

                  Its honestly no ones goddamn business.
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                  • camshaftgsxr
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                    • Aug 2011
                    • 416

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Kershaw
                    we need to encourage abortion.
                    we should just require it
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                    • cale
                      R3VLimited
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2331

                      #70
                      Originally posted by camshaftgsxr
                      "I however would be willing to act outside of the law to get retribution for what I consider to be a barbaric act."

                      so you are saying you would harm this woman for having a legal abortion of a fetus? thats the most disgusting thing ive heard in a long time. and you should be ashamed to even think that way.

                      lemme guess you consider it a baby when the sprem touches the egg? or maybe when the group of cells resembles a baby? or maybe its your property?

                      no, its hers until its born

                      so fuck you and your supposed right the the group of cells that a woman is carrying in her body, its not your baby its her embyro. you can suck it cause your just a sperm donor until that baby is born.

                      the word for you?
                      ignorant

                      'United States

                      In the case of Planned Parenthood of Central Missouri v. Danforth, 428 U.S. 52, 96 S. Ct. 2831, 49 L. Ed. 2d 788 (1976), the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the right to have an abortion, striking the state's requirements of parental consent for minors and spousal consent for married women.

                      This is a matter of privacy since a fetus cannot be separated from a woman's body.

                      A father must establish his paternity after the birth through DNA testing that can be arranged through court in order to establish parental rights.


                      England and Wales

                      The foetus (sic) is considered part of the womans body (except in the case of deliberate murder) and therefore the father has no say whatsoever."
                      I'm well aware of the legal rights a father has to his unborn child, hence implying I'd be willing to go outside what is legal to get retribution for her act. Thanks for confirming my believe that you're a moron by referencing so many things for which I'm already very aware of. Improper use of the word ignorant is evidence of ignorance, moron.

                      You think it's sick huh, do you know what I think is sick? A justice system that grants no rights to a father for his unborn child yet can hold that same individual financially responsible for costs incured during that pregnancy. We can't protect the child, but you can rest assured you'll pay for it!

                      It all boils down to ones opinion of when life starts, and considering a fetus develops so much during pregnancy to even have such complex brain functions as dreams it's a little weird to not consider that a life until it can stare back at you to make you realize what you're responsible for. So no, fuck you and your condescending attitude.

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                      • camshaftgsxr
                        E30 Addict
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 416

                        #71
                        Originally posted by cale
                        I'm well aware of the legal rights a father has to his unborn child, hence implying I'd be willing to go outside what is legal to get retribution for her act. Thanks for confirming my believe that you're a moron by referencing so many things for which I'm already very aware of. Improper use of the word ignorant is evidence of ignorance, moron.
                        i dont even care about arguing with you about abortion and how the modern world contradicts your beliefs, but your attitude towards harming women is despicable.
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                        • Kershaw
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 11822

                          #72
                          zing!
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                          • Streichholzschächtelchen
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1670

                            #73
                            but will it blend?
                            Jah bless! :pimp:

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                            • cale
                              R3VLimited
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2331

                              #74
                              Originally posted by camshaftgsxr
                              i dont even care about arguing with you about abortion and how the modern world contradicts your beliefs, but your attitude towards harming women is despicable.
                              How would you react if you had an infant baby, the mother decided she didn't want it anymore and she chose to kill it and you had no rights to keeping that child alive? This is of course assuming it was ok in the eyes of the law. You think it's despicable because you don't see it from my POV, but if the child had already been born most of society wouldn't think too poorly on a father who lost control and beat his wife for murdering their child. Again, it's comes down to the point when we decide a life holds significant enough value to be considered a child.
                              Last edited by cale; 02-15-2012, 12:12 PM.

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                              • tjts1
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • May 2007
                                • 1851

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Kershaw
                                we need to encourage abortion.
                                +1
                                Originally posted by camshaftgsxr
                                we should just require it
                                Even better.
                                Originally posted by Streichholzschächtelchen
                                but will it blend?

                                Originally posted by cale
                                How would you react if you had an infant baby, the mother decided she didn't want it anymore and she chose to kill it and you had no rights to keeping that child alive?
                                Take a long hard look in the mirror. WTF were you thinking banging the crazy bitch in the first place?
                                Last edited by tjts1; 02-15-2012, 01:52 PM.

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