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  • Turf1600
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 9815

    #16
    Originally posted by 2761377
    it's actually the paradigm for the correct outcome of that type of relationship
    You're saying that's how relationships like that should end? Paradigm doesn't make sense in that context - at least not with the word "correct" involved.

    Originally posted by eskimo810
    He never said he had a problem with anything. Only that it was crazy that something like this could have happened in a rural area where he lives.
    Originally posted by sam3
    I'm pretty incensed by the whole story, but if I had to pick a most-odious aspect, I'd say the pictures of these freaks.
    Do you know what incensed means?

    Originally posted by eskimo810
    It's like you were fishing for a statement on homophobia. Must have been a really slow night where you work.
    Would you fish in a lake with no fish? I wouldn't either. I guess you don't know how to use context clues - but if I was fishing I was doing so with dynamite while at a fish farm. Otherwise - last night was very busy and pretty difficult. Today has been the same. 9 flights and a few deceased since I got here at 6pm. R3v is how I keep it together sometimes.
    Last edited by Turf1600; 04-15-2012, 06:27 PM.
    "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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    • eskimo810
      Wrencher
      • Nov 2011
      • 295

      #17
      Originally posted by Turf1600
      Do you know what incensed means?
      I do know what incensed means, and I feel that he was using it to describe his feelings on the victims being sex offenders, and not as being homosexually oriented. He said, "I really don't have any feelings about their sexual orientation, but as a father I'm uncomfortable that all three were convicted child rapists." That kind of cemented my understanding.

      Don't get me wrong, doesn't sound like the guy is going to march at a gay pride parade anytime soon, but he doesn't sound homophobic. I could be wrong, I just read it through and you sounded kind of harsh.

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      • Turf1600
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2006
        • 9815

        #18
        Originally posted by eskimo810
        I do know what incensed means, and I feel that he was using it to describe his feelings on the victims being sex offenders, and not as being homosexually oriented. He said, "I really don't have any feelings about their sexual orientation, but as a father I'm uncomfortable that all three were convicted child rapists." That kind of cemented my understanding.

        Don't get me wrong, doesn't sound like the guy is going to march at a gay pride parade anytime soon, but he doesn't sound homophobic. I could be wrong, I just read it through and you sounded kind of harsh.
        So wait....you think this guy posted the article because they were sex offenders?

        First of all - it didn't mention that at all in the article. He only brought it up later when his disregard for the value of life became evident.

        I don't care if the dude is homophobic or not - but he sure is willing to lay down some critical judgements of people he doesn't know. What's worse is that someone is grasping to life in a hospital somewhere - and the OP wishes they would go ahead and die. I'm sorry - but that's wrong.
        "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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        • eskimo810
          Wrencher
          • Nov 2011
          • 295

          #19
          First of all, it did say it in the article.

          Second, you should go back and re-read your posts. He doesn't even mention sexual orientation until he says he doesn't have a problem with it in response to one of your posts. Granted, his remarks could certainly have been taken the wrong way, but your initial snap judgement of them isn't definitively correct.

          I won't argue with your view on him wishing death upon someone else. I'm in the same boat. I don't support capital punishment or anything of the sort. I will say that I know people who DO, and they are not bad people at all. Wishing pain, upon someone else... well that's a different story.

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          • Turf1600
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 9815

            #20
            Originally posted by eskimo810
            First of all, it did say it in the article.

            Second, you should go back and re-read your posts. He doesn't even mention sexual orientation until he says he doesn't have a problem with it in response to one of your posts. Granted, his remarks could certainly have been taken the wrong way, but your initial snap judgement of them isn't definitively correct.

            Wishing pain, upon someone else... well that's a different story.
            The article has been expanded since yesterday. It's about twice the size now.

            Really - he never answered any of my questions. He just said "abhorrent behaviours beget abhorrent behaviours" and I was left to assume which behaviors he was talking about. There was no snap of judgement - I was just asking questions and working with the answers.

            As for wishing pain upon others - what's your point?
            Last edited by Turf1600; 04-15-2012, 07:47 PM.
            "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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            • eskimo810
              Wrencher
              • Nov 2011
              • 295

              #21
              Originally posted by Turf1600
              The article has been expanded since yesterday. It's about twice the size now.
              No, it hasn't. I read it through immediately prior to my first comment, and that was the impression I got.

              It even has "Published Apr 13, 2012 at 5:32 pm (Updated Apr 13, 2012)" at the top.

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              • Turf1600
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 9815

                #22
                Originally posted by eskimo810
                No, it hasn't. I read it through immediately prior to my first comment, and that was the impression I got.

                It even has "Published Apr 13, 2012 at 5:32 pm (Updated Apr 13, 2012)" at the top.
                It sure does say that. However, I read the article from beginning to end the first time around. It was not that long and lacked a lot of details that are now clearly outlined. You read the article many hours after I did and cannot attest to it's content before that point in time. If you want to believe that the publishers of the article are precision time stampers then be my guest.
                "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                • eskimo810
                  Wrencher
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 295

                  #23
                  Whatever man, I just thought it was silly that you were shitting on the guy for what you thought he was saying, rather than what he actually was.

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                  • Turf1600
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 9815

                    #24
                    Originally posted by eskimo810
                    Whatever man, I just thought it was silly that you were shitting on the guy for what you thought he was saying, rather than what he actually was.
                    Can you outline where I did that please?
                    "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                    • 2761377
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 397

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Turf1600
                      You're saying that's how relationships like that should end? Paradigm doesn't make sense in that context - at least not with the word "correct" involved.

                      you're right. the word i should have used is expected. it may be presumed that sex offender felons would have a history of violence. i don't understand any feelings of compassion for this trio.

                      robert w.

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                      • Turf1600
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 9815

                        #26
                        Originally posted by 2761377
                        you're right. the word i should have used is expected. it may be presumed that sex offender felons would have a history of violence. i don't understand any feelings of compassion for this trio.

                        robert w.
                        Compassion isn't antonymous with wishing someone were dead. Also, presumptions are useless. Wisdom is admitting what you do not know - and let's face it - you don't know.
                        "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                        • 2761377
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 397

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Turf1600
                          Compassion isn't antonymous with wishing someone were dead. Also, presumptions are useless. Wisdom is admitting what you do not know - and let's face it - you don't know.
                          i know their death was predictable. but it's not about me- you're the one with a case of the ass over the end of their worthless lives,

                          i couldn't care less.

                          hth
                          robert w.

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                          • Kershaw
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 11822

                            #28
                            when you die, im going to read that statement at your funeral.

                            fyi, you're going to die in >2 years.
                            AWD > RWD

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                            • Turf1600
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 9815

                              #29
                              You know - I'm trying to understand how people can be so hateful. I just can't.
                              "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                              • 2761377
                                Grease Monkey
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 397

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Kershaw
                                when you die, im going to read that statement at your funeral.

                                fyi, you're going to die in >2 years.
                                you're not invited.

                                hateful? what about not caring don't you understand? life is cheap.

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