Gonna stir the pot abit. Christian originality or copywritten material?

[slaterd]

Please don't be a repost.

I have recently done some extra research in my spare time when reading the most recent religious thread "Is there a God". Knowing that that cannot be answered I switched to the messiahs of organized religion, Jesus Christ particularly. The majority of people, even Atheists, know the story of Jesus Christ, is it true or was it taken from several other religions throughout history? Here's my examples I stumbled upon.

Story of Horus (Egyptian God of the Sun)
Horus was born on December 25th 3000BC
Born of Virgin Isese Mary
Birth was accompied by a star in the East
Adored by 3 kings
teacher at 12
baptized/ministry at 30
12 disciples
performed miracles
"Lamb of God:/"The Light"
After being betrayed by Typhoon he was crucified, buried for 3 days and was resurrected.

Story of Attis of Phrygia
Born of Virgin Nana on December 25th 1200BC
Crucified
Placed in a Tomb for 3 days
Resurrected.

Story of Krishna of India
Born of the Virgin Devaki
Star in the East signalling his coming
Performed miracles with his disciples
Upon his death was resurrected

Story of Dionysus of Greece
Born of a Virgin
Born on December 25, 500 BC
Was a traveling teacher who performed miracles such as turning water into wine.
Entitled "King of Kings, God's Only Begotten Son, and the Alpha and Omega"
Upon his death he was resurrected

Mithra of Persia
Born of a Virgin December 25th 1200BC
12 disciples
performed miracles
Entombed for 3 days
Resurrected
"Sunday" is considered his worship day.

These aren't the only ones that match the same stories. Jesus Christ, the most recent and well known is among one of them. Would anybody like to enlighten me on these findings? Why has Christian based religions adopted these overly used stories?

Some references for cultural truth.
Horus

http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/HORUS.htm

Attis

http://www.truthbeknown.com/attis.html

Dionysus
http://www.greekmythology.com/Other_.../dionysus.html

Now I want to get the facts straight that I am not advocating the belief that there was no Jesus Christ. I believe that he was a man but only just.

Please share your thoughts.

[e30e]

My cousin was born on the 25th, her mom wasn't a virgin but my cousin had her name legally changed to Noelle, does that make her a deity?

[slaterd]

I'm not following what you're trying to do with that. I'm showing that a lot of deities, messiahs, prophets, what have you are all following the same story line. They're not just run of the mill people that someone typed in these things and poof popped up. These are major figures (real or fictional) who, in these religious texts, have deep impacts in. All of their "life events" are following the same thing.

[herbivor]

I think Religulous pointed that out as well. Check out Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion" for more insight on that.

[nrubenstein]

Answer - Very little in any religion is original. Generally the original part is whichever guy had a "vision," recycling all the old components in a slightly new way.

You have not exactly stumbled on to anything new here.

[Swanny]

Somebody just watched zeitgeist....


Actually there was a great show on science with Stephen hawking where he breaks down his reasoning of whether a god exists or not.

[OniKyan]

Somebody just watched zeitgeist.....

The Segway from religioin to world bank conspiracies in zeitgeist may have been slightly irrelevant but the information about the birth of Christianity was accurate.

Religion is a hoax. Everybody needs a hero. I choose batman.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Now take a moment and read how many religions have great flood stories.

[Vedubin01]

Now take a moment and read how many religions have great flood stories.

wasn't that from global warming and the melting of the polar icecaps?

oh wait... wut?

[Swanny]

The Segway from religioin to world bank conspiracies in zeitgeist may have been slightly irrelevant but the information about the birth of Christianity was accurate.

Religion is a hoax. Everybody needs a hero. I choose batman.

I totally agree. It was rapid fire facts then major shift to banks, currency, and war.

We should probably start the church of Batman though. Set up booths in front of movie theaters this month and we'd get a solid following.

[Kershaw]

you ever stop and think about how often large sections of the world get flooded on a regular basis? you're really going to use a regularly occurring natural phenomenon as proof of your god? really? try sticking to pillars of fire or something equally ridiculous.







apparently these flood things happen quite often...

[slaterd]

Awesome, I was expecting another stupid debate or eternal flameage. Yeah I'll admit that I watched Zeitgest or however you spell it. I watched it a while ago and decided to watch it again after seeing the "is there a God" thread and decided to see if there was any relevance to what they said. Yep, 90% of it is true and I'm giving them 90% because I don't know what their beliefs are, most likely atheist, and there is probably some bias.

[cale]

wasn't that from global warming and the melting of the polar icecaps?

oh wait... wut?

You can't prove that it wasn't AGW as a result in the increase of blacksmithing at the time, take that!

[Farbin Kaiber]

goddoesntloveyoudrownseveryonebutnoah.jpg

Well, it does show he loved Noah.

[slaterd]

And all the other 20+ stories of a man saving the world from a flood. Almost every culture has the flood story and they say God saved only him and his family. Well with that logic, um, we would be looking like this.