Announcement of candidacy

[mrsleeve]

Especially the ones that buy guns for protection. Why else would you feel the need to protect yourself with a lethal weapon other than out of fear?

You have a spare tire in your car right (or at least run flat tires) ?? Do you fear a flat tire??

Do you have a generator for when the power goes out?? Do you fear a power outage????

How about AAA??? DO you fear a automotive break down???

tools to fix your car when it breaks?? Why do you need those tools your not a professional mechanic

keep some water, batteries maybe, a little food for when you have a big ice storm and what not??? Are you scared of mother nature???

Its not about fear, its about being prepared in the event bad things happen at the hands of bad people. Walking around with your head in the sand thinking it will never happen to me is just what those kind of people count on. I chose to not be a victim, if you chose to not equip your self with the knowledge and hardware to defend your self in such an instance thats your prerogative, and no skin off my nose. But when you start to tell me what I can and cant do to defend my self, family and property because you dont agree with it, then we have issues.

[herbivor]

^you can't compare a tool to fix a flat tire to a tool for killing a human. If I ever own a gun it will be out of fear of being attacked. I'm not against guns for defense but if you are prepared to take a human life, it is because you fear being attacked or being unprepared to defend yourself. I wouldn't have trained 8 years in Martial arts if I didn't have the same fears.

[z31maniac]

Especially the ones that buy guns for protection. Why else would you feel the need to protect yourself with a lethal weapon other than out of fear?

I don't know, because it's violent out there?

This weekend, two innocent people were shot and killed at a Best Buy in a nice part of town.

Or a few months back when a 19 year old woman was home along, two men were trying to break in (they were both carrying guns and large knives), when they finally got through the door, she took care of them.


I don't know why you have this naive view that are no people who would wish to do you harm in this world. So why not be prepared to protect yourself.

What I was getting at with the scared comments is the way Americans are begging to have their freedoms taken away in the name of safety from the Terrorists.

[z31maniac]

I wouldn't have trained 8 years in Martial arts if I didn't have the same fears.

Cool beans, Mr. Miyagi.

Guess you better hope someone with a gun would never, you know, stay out of arms reach.

[Morrison]

If I were truly paranoid of flat tires, I'd carry 4 spares with me at all times. Then again, flat tires are probably most likely to cause harm while still under power and providing potential for loss of control. At this stage, my 4 spares if not properly strapped down are more of a liability than insurance.

I've lost power to my home several times in the past and I'm still here to tell the tale. Never bought a generator.

I have tools to fix my car when it breaks. It's because I'm scared of the prices that professionals charge to fix my cars. My tools have definitely hurt me too, but never killed me.

I'm notoriously bad at keeping food and bottled water around the house during snowstorms.

I don't have AAA, and often forget to even bring a cell phone with me when I travel as well.

I'm not saying you can't prepare for the above or that it's necessarily un-wise to do so. I also never said you shouldn't be able to wear a bullet-proof vest under your fire-proof suit while donning a full face helemet and strapped into a 5 point harness, with a four leaf clover in your pocket and a gun on each hip while driving. I guess we can both come up with silly/extreme examples to support our view.

[Vedubin01]

If I were truly paranoid of flat tires, I'd carry 4 spares with me at all times. Then again, flat tires are probably most likely to cause harm while still under power and providing potential for loss of control. At this stage, my 4 spares if not properly strapped down are more of a liability than insurance.

I've lost power to my home several times in the past and I'm still here to tell the tale. Never bought a generator.

I have tools to fix my car when it breaks. It's because I'm scared of the prices that professionals charge to fix my cars. My tools have definitely hurt me too, but never killed me.

I'm notoriously bad at keeping food and bottled water around the house during snowstorms.

I don't have AAA, and often forget to even bring a cell phone with me when I travel as well.

I'm not saying you can't prepare for the above or that it's necessarily un-wise to do so. I also never said you shouldn't be able to wear a bullet-proof vest under your fire-proof suit while donning a full face helemet and strapped into a 5 point harness, with a four leaf clover in your pocket and a gun on each hip while driving. I guess we can both come up with silly/extreme examples to support our view.

Yet you live in the one of the most gun restricted states of this country. How is that gun control working out for Chicago and your state of IL?

[frankenbeemer]

If the Founders had wished to create a pure democracy, they would have done so. Those who now wish to do away with the Electoral College are welcome to amend the Constitution, but if they succeed, they will be taking America further away from its roots as a constitutional republic.

[BraveUlysses]

Yet you live in the one of the most gun restricted states of this country. How is that gun control working out for Chicago and your state of IL?

Considering most of Chicago's violence is gang, drug or street level violence, what would change if guns were even more available? What point are you trying to make?

[z31maniac]

If I were truly paranoid of flat tires, I'd carry 4 spares with me at all times.

No, you'd just have a poor understanding of probability. :p

[Dozyproductions]

If the Founders had wished to create a pure democracy, they would have done so. Those who now wish to do away with the Electoral College are welcome to amend the Constitution, but if they succeed, they will be taking America further away from its roots as a constitutional republic.

We're far from a constitutional republic by now so don't worry about that. Defend the electoral college another way, I actually want to hear it. Doesn't that shit make sure that our votes really do have the possibility of not mattering?

...to have the president elected by a direct popular vote. Direct election was rejected not because the Framers of the Constitution doubted public intelligence but rather because they feared that without sufficient information about candidates from outside their State, people would naturally vote for a "favorite son" from their own State or region. At worst, no president would emerge with a popular majority sufficient to govern the whole country. At best, the choice of president would always be decided by the largest, most populous States with little regard for the smaller ones.

2. Require that ALL campaign contributions must be anonymous. This will stop the "buying" of politics.

how? Just reading this from the top of my head but I would think that would make it that much more worse.

[Vedubin01]

Considering most of Chicago's violence is gang, drug or street level violence, what would change if guns were even more available? What point are you trying to make?

shows that gun restriction only hurts the law abiding citizens. Gangs and crime dont care about the law. The only thing you are doing is not allowing the law abiding citizen to protect themselves.

[Morrison]

They do care about laws. Why else would they wear ski masks, operate under the cover of darkness, and speed away from authorities? They're not immune to prosecution. I think what you meant to say is that they have an alternative set of values and their personalities are more predisposed toward engaging in risky behavior.

I just want to re-iterate that my gun control plan would still allow these folks to be heavily armed along with everyone else who chooses. If you can think of at least three different calibers of pistol, you just thought of a way to legally strap up with 6 handguns under my plan as an example. The fact that I would allow that, yet be labeled a "gun-grabber" on here perfectly illustrates how completely nut-balls "gun people" have become. Wow.

[frankenbeemer]

They do care about laws. Why else would they wear ski masks, operate under the cover of darkness, and speed away from authorities? They're not immune to prosecution. I think what you meant to say is that they have an alternative set of values and their personalities are more predisposed toward engaging in risky behavior.

I just want to re-iterate that my gun control plan would still allow these folks to be heavily armed along with everyone else who chooses. If you can think of at least three different calibers of pistol, you just thought of a way to legally strap up with 6 handguns under my plan as an example. The fact that I would allow that, yet be labeled a "gun-grabber" on here perfectly illustrates how completely nut-balls "gun people" have become. Wow.

Then why bother with the restriction?

[Morrison]

I have to appear somewhat moderate on at least one issue; that's how you play politics. And Operation F&F is a hot button issue right now. The goal was to appease everyone on this.

[frankenbeemer]

We're far from a constitutional republic by now so don't worry about that. Defend the electoral college another way, I actually want to hear it. Doesn't that shit make sure that our votes really do have the possibility of not mattering?

In the 2000 election, for example, Vice President Gore could have put together a plurality or majority in the Northeast, parts of the Midwest, and California.

The Electoral College forces presidential candidates to seek support throughout the nation. Without it, it seems likely that sparsely populated areas will be somewhat disenfranchised. The good side is: no more pandering to the likes of Farbin Kaiber.