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Originally posted by lambo View PostSo... How do you think this will affect future moviegoers? Pat downs and metal detectors after the ticket booths? Motion Picture Security Administration?Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!
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Originally posted by z31maniac View PostStill waiting......
I'll take Toronto any day thanks, but feel free to keep looking for stains in an otherwise rather clean city if it validates your selective observations.
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Originally posted by cale View PostOn what? Trying to call Toronto an unsafe city is laughable at best. The murder rates in Chicago are 5x greater with Detroit's being 10x greater, robbery rates are about 1/3 that of those two cities.
I'll take Toronto any day thanks, but feel free to keep looking for stains in an otherwise rather clean city if it validates your selective observations.
Yeah, ask the District of Columbia about that one. See how well it's worked for them.
This is a simple question. Say you are out for malicious intent (Because there is always a human that is, ALWAYS). Would you rather rob a person with a gun, or a person without a gun?
Would you rather go on a rampage in a movie theatre? Or an NRA meeting?
Now, make an entire nation full of people who don't have guns, or don't know how to get guns across a border.
Borders cannot, and will never be fully patrolled 100% of the time. To do so would involve half of the countries population, give or take. Because no countries border can 100% secure, you cannot say your 100% sure in the fact that nobody has guns in a country.
Would you rather invade them for their land and wealth, or a country chocked full of gun owners, where guns are frequently used?
Therefore it's really, really simple.
Because nobody can say with 100% accuracy and certainty that within the borders of their country there are no guns in the possession of civilians. Because nobody can say with 100% accuracy that there is nobody in a given place that is NOT out for malicious intent.
AND, based off these very easily identifiable situations, I heartily choose to have my gun. I will NOT live in a place where I cannot defend myself legally from a person that is attacking me illegally.
Because:
1: People know I have a gun, so someone is less likely to come in here. If someone is that desperate, it's going to happen regardless if I have one or not.
2. I am american. I value all that is the constitution. I do not value our politics, politicians, and the dumbfucks who think they can run america, but that's besides the point. I love my country.
3. I am an Eagle Scout. It's called "Be Prepared". I am prepared.
4. My government does not respect me. If shit really hits the fan and we fall into another civil war, I have my place in that fight.
5. I will do EVERYTHING in my power to protect my family, and the sanctity of my house. If need by, I will also do EVERYTHING in my power to protect those that need it, and need me to do it.
It really is just that simple.
That said. I hope the Jackass that went into that theatre and opened fire on innocent moviegoers gets absolutely nothing that he wanted. But that will never happen, because MM spoke it very true to form.
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Originally posted by TurboJake View PostNow, make an entire nation full of people who don't have guns, or don't know how to get guns across a border.
Would you rather rob a person with a gun, or a person without a gun?
Would you rather go on a rampage in a movie theatre? Or an NRA meeting?
I don't rob and I don't go on rampages, but if I were to do either of those I don't need to worry about my would-be victims having CCW's. Likewise I don't worry about needing to ward of any threats myself as I've never felt threatened where I live. It's a moot argument for me because it doesn't apply to me and I'm sorry if it applies to you.
I also don't recall every suggesting bans, I merely posed the question of accessibility to firearms being a factor in these occurrences. Thanks for validating my point though, you have created a nation where violence is so prevalent that having a gun is not an option but has become a necessity.Last edited by cale; 07-20-2012, 04:48 PM.
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Originally posted by cale View PostPlenty of nations do exist without many guns, and they're doing just fine with much lower violent and non-violent crime rates than the US.
Thanks for validating my point though, you have created a nation where violence is so prevalent that having a gun is not an option but has become a necessity.
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Originally posted by cale View PostPlenty of nations do exist without many guns, and they're doing just fine with much lower violent and non-violent crime rates than the US.
I also don't recall every suggesting bans, I merely posed the question of accessibility to firearms being a factor in these occurrences. Thanks for validating my point though, you have created a nation where violence is so prevalent that having a gun is not an option but has become a necessity.
Again please see stats from the UK and Australia after they imposed their bans, Violent crime went up and so did GUN CRIME, riddle me that one oh great swamiOriginally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
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Originally posted by cale View PostOn what? Trying to call Toronto an unsafe city is laughable at best. The murder rates in Chicago are 5x greater with Detroit's being 10x greater, robbery rates are about 1/3 that of those two cities.
I'll take Toronto any day thanks, but feel free to keep looking for stains in an otherwise rather clean city if it validates your selective observations.
I was asking about Chicago and D.C., because after they imposed hand gun bans, their crime rates and gun crime rates INCREASED.
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Plenty of nations do exist without many guns, and they're doing just fine with much lower violent and non-violent crime rates than the US.
Likewise I don't worry about needing to ward of any threats myself as I've never felt threatened where I live. It's a moot argument for me because it doesn't apply to me and I'm sorry if it applies to you.
I also don't recall every suggesting bans, I merely posed the question of accessibility to firearms being a factor in these occurrences. Thanks for validating my point though, you have created a nation where violence is so prevalent that having a gun is not an option but has become a necessity
finally, the last statement is ludicrous- gun violence in america today is mostly due to the stupid drug war, not anything done by a r3v member.
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Originally posted by z31maniac View PostYou aren't very good at reading
Like I said guys, it's a problem that cannot be solved. Perhaps I'm just trying to get you to admit you're living in a shit storm...but you can deny it all you'd like despite the facts stating otherwise
Sleeve rates are done per capita, don't think that your large population gets you out of it.
Jake that stat's aren't hard to find, visit Wiki...nothing I've said is remotely untrue. I'm on my phone and not about to start linking sry.
Originally posted by 2761377 View Postmust be nice. if you need to go to any downtown area in SoCal, you can expect to be maddogged by gang-bangers- if you have the sack to make eye contact, that is.Last edited by cale; 07-20-2012, 05:20 PM.
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Originally posted by cale View PostNor yourself, where did I suggest imposing hand gun bans? Reading between the lines in hopes you'll find something you can use against me hasn't bode well for you.
Like I said guys, it's a problem that cannot be solved. Perhaps I'm just trying to get you to admit you're living in a shit storm...but you can deny it all you'd like despite the facts stating otherwise
Sleeve rates are done per capita, don't think that your large population gets you out of it.
Jake that stat's aren't hard to find, visit Wiki...nothing I've said is remotely untrue. I'm on my phone and not about to start linking sry.
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I'm just going to pop in long enough to say this:
You guys are making lots of claims, but no one is linking to shit. If you're going to have a debate, the first rule is keep it civil (most of you are) the second rule is back your shit up with some research! Even bad research is better than spouting off "facts".-------------------------------------------------
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