I like how the same people who don't want the word "marriage" redefined are responsible for redefining the words "gay" and "fag". True story.
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Originally posted by herbivor View PostI like how the same people who don't want the word "marriage" redefined are responsible for redefining the words "gay" and "fag". True story.sigpic
Originally posted by JinormusJDon't buy an e30
They're stupid
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yes a slag term is the same as a term that has been corner stone of society for 1000's of yearsOriginally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
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Originally posted by Kershaw View Posthis point was that they werent the ones redefining words willy-nilly. in the 80s these asshats had no problem redefining the word fag into something derogatory, but now that someone else wants to redefine a word it's a huge problem.
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Originally posted by JinormusJDon't buy an e30
They're stupid
1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.
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It seems that waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles dates to 1914 in the sense of homosexuality.
The online etymology dictionary (etymonline) is the internet's go-to source for quick and reliable accounts of the origin and history of English words, phrases, and idioms. It is professional enough to satisfy academic standards, but accessible enough to be used by anyone.
Perhaps I need more clarification of the point.
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Originally posted by JinormusJDon't buy an e30
They're stupid
1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View Postyes a slag term is the same as a term that has been corner stone of society for 1000's of years
Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostNo Just a militant religion hating, I am smarter than you Jesus people, atheist. As a non religious person I hate those types, its why I dont call my self an atheist I dont want to be lumped in with the likes of those people anymore. I have become very tolerant of others beliefs since I have grown up
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Originally posted by Cliche Guevara View PostI've asked you guys time and again to demonstrate how a slight alteration in the definition of marriage (which is hugely distinctive from the "redefining" bullshit you're spouting) will result in the concept of marriage becoming completely unrecognizable. You have failed to provide an explanation. Until you do so, your argument holds zero validity.
Two things. First, atheism connotates nothing more than a lack of belief in a god. We're all atheists to some degree, some of us have just gone one god farther. Second, these "militant atheists" (a phrase which has zero grounding in reality) are no different than evangelical Christians. The only reason you dislike them is because their arguments make you feel uncomfortable with your own beliefs.sigpic
Originally posted by JinormusJDon't buy an e30
They're stupid
1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.
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Oh Lookie right on que............
Originally posted by Cliche Guevara View PostI've asked you guys time and again to demonstrate how a slight alteration in the definition of marriage (which is hugely distinctive from the "redefining" bullshit you're spouting) will result in the concept of marriage becoming completely unrecognizable. You have failed to provide an explanation. Until you do so, your argument holds zero validity.
Here is the way I see it since you want to know so bad. Its not so much the definition that bugs me. Its the lack of respect and decency for the rest of society that bugs the shit outta me. You being a product of the "Precious Snowflake its all about ME generation" you have little concept of respect and decency for others. Nearly all of your posts in P&R Wreak of this fact.
I have not kept up real well with this tread, but I didnt see where anyone has said the homos should not get the same legal treatment. In fact I see lots of advocates for it and I am one of them, about 90% of what heteros couples get prepackaged in a marriage license can be obtained with a simple visit to an attorney, the rest..... well the law should be changed to give them that as well.
You see I have no fucking issues at all with what consenting adults do in their own time and in their own home, and really I dont give a shit really . The marriage debate is nothing more than the homo community trying to force their life style down the throats of the rest of society and try to legitimize their life style to the rest of us. You see if it was all about the "rights" gained when heteros get married then the community would gladly accept "civil union", "Gays big party day" "Joined" "life partner" "Partnered" "Paired" or some other term. But to them its not about that now is it?? I think even you can see this.
Originally posted by Cliche GuevaraTwo things. First, atheism connotates nothing more than a lack of belief in a god. We're all atheists to some degree, some of us have just gone one god farther. Second, these "militant atheists" (a phrase which has zero grounding in reality) are no different than evangelical Christians. The only reason you dislike them is because their arguments make you feel uncomfortable with your own beliefs.
2) Me thinks you have an issue with da engrish
Militant - Adj. vigorously active and aggressive, especially in support of a cause.
You and your ilk, in your Atheist fervor seem to fit that definition rather well. Your right your no different than the bible thumpers that try and push their beliefs on the rest of us, I view them as one in the same. I have (as you have quoted) explained my position on this already.
Oh lookie your so smart you think you know what I believe, and because I am a conservative I must be a church goer too, when right there in black and white, that you quoted I clearly state the opposite . I am very comfortable with my own beliefs and as I have gotten older am very tolerant of what others believe, until they try and force it on me via the law. Something the militant atheists, and gays have been doing for a while now. There is something you should learn tolerance.Last edited by mrsleeve; 08-07-2012, 07:03 PM.Originally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostWhere I have I made any such argument in this thread??? Other than what you quoted which was more common sense than anything.
Originally posted by meyou guys
Here is the way I see it since you want to know so bad. Its not so much the definition that bugs me. Its the lack of respect and decency for the rest of society that bugs the shit outta me.
I have not kept up real well with this tread, but I didnt see where anyone has said the homos should not get the same legal treatment. In fact I see lots of advocates for it and I am one of them, about 90% of what heteros couples get prepackaged in a marriage license can be obtained with a simple visit to an attorney, the rest..... well the law should be changed to give them that as well.
You see I have no fucking issues at all with what consenting adults do in their own time and in their own home, and really I dont give a shit really . The marriage debate is nothing more than the homo community trying to force their life style down the throats of the rest of society and try to legitimize their life style to the rest of us. You see if it was all about the "rights" gained when heteros get married then the community would gladly accept "civil union", "Gays big party day" "Joined" "life partner" "Partnered" "Paired" or some other term. But to them its not about that now is it?? I think even you can see this.
1) I dont partake in religion or a belief in a deity, but I dont define myself as an atheist because then I would be grouped in with the likes of you.
2) Me thinks you have an issue with da engrish
Militant - Adj. vigorously active and aggressive, especially in support of a cause.
You and your ilk, in your Atheist fervor seem to fit that definition rather well. Your right your no different than the bible thumpers that try and push their beliefs on the rest of us, I view them as one in the same. I have (as you have quoted) explained my position on this already.
I am very comfortable with my own beliefs and as I have gotten older am very tolerant of what others believe, until they try and force it on me via the law. Something the militant atheists, and gays have been doing for a while now. There is something you should learn tolerance.
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Originally posted by Kershaw View Post
Context is important, and something atheists never really pay any attention to. But no big deal, right? Do you know what Christ said in the NT about homosexuality? About bestiality? About incest? Polygamy? That stuff was all over the OT and seemed totally "cool." (Forget Sodom and Gommora)
I could go on all night quoting scripture and picking apart each of those little boxes, but its a moot point given your general attitude towards the subject.
The simple fact is this: the people that insist we [Christians] be tolerant, also need to be tolerant of OUR beliefs. We don't hate gays. I respect them and feel they should have the same rights as any other person.
However, the meaning of the word "marriage" in the context of a Biblical worldview is FAR different than the meaning of "marriage" in a secular worldview. The traditional view of marriage is through the Biblical perspective, plain and simple.
You can't begin to understand why we believe what we believe until you study the scriptures and understand how we view things from a "biblical worldview." Trying to talk about the bible with an atheist is like trying to talk democracy with a tyrant. You can hope they'll change their mind, but the discussion is often limited due to both parties having different worldviews, with neither of them entering the discussion with a willingness to have a change of thought.Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.
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Originally posted by randomsv650 View PostThe simple fact is this: the people that insist we [Christians] be tolerant, also need to be tolerant of OUR beliefs. We don't hate gays. I respect them and feel they should have the same rights as any other person.
However, the meaning of the word "marriage" in the context of a Biblical worldview is FAR different than the meaning of "marriage" in a secular worldview. The traditional view of marriage is through the Biblical perspective, plain and simple.
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Originally posted by Kershaw View Post
And right on cue the lefty makes it a you're either with us or against us argument...why am I not surprised...Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.
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