Gay Veteran talks to Mitt Romney

[joshh]

It becomes immediately clear how much of a selfish asshole you have to be to be against gay marriage when you're forced to tell a gay person to their face that you do not think they're deserving of the same rights as straight couples. Especially when that person is an elderly veteran. I'm surprised he didn't also ask Mitt about his opinions on gays serving in the military.

Gay people have the same rights heterosexuals have. They have the right to *marry* someone of the opposite sex.

[evandael]

Gay people have the same rights heterosexuals have. They have the right to *marry* someone of the opposite sex.

you're confusing religious doctrine with government recognition of a social contract.

[joshh]

you're confusing religious doctrine with government recognition of a social contract.

No the gay community is.

[Kershaw]

let's, for a second, agree that marriage is between a man and a woman. now that we have that definition down, i think it's a bit too archaic. like 14 year old brides. this is not the 1800s anymore.

time to update it to two consenting adults.

[Kershaw]

Baltimore Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo has spoken out in favor of a Maryland ballot initiative that would legalize gay marriage. Yahoo has published a letter that Maryland state delegate Emmett C. Burns Jr. wrote last week to Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti, urging him to "inhibit such expressions from your employee." This is Minnesota Vikings punter Chris Kluwe's response to Burns.

Dear Emmett C. Burns Jr.,

I find it inconceivable that you are an elected official of Maryland's state government. Your vitriolic hatred and bigotry make me ashamed and disgusted to think that you are in any way responsible for shaping policy at any level. The views you espouse neglect to consider several fundamental key points, which I will outline in great detail (you may want to hire an intern to help you with the longer words):

1. As I suspect you have not read the Constitution, I would like to remind you that the very first, the VERY FIRST Amendment in this founding document deals with the freedom of speech, particularly the abridgment of said freedom. By using your position as an elected official (when referring to your constituents so as to implicitly threaten the Ravens organization) to state that the Ravens should "inhibit such expressions from your employees," more specifically Brendon Ayanbadejo, not only are you clearly violating the First Amendment, you also come across as a narcissistic fromunda stain. What on earth would possess you to be so mind-boggingly stupid? It baffles me that a man such as yourself, a man who relies on that same First Amendment to pursue your own religious studies without fear of persecution from the state, could somehow justify stifling another person's right to speech. To call that hypocritical would be to do a disservice to the word. Mindfucking obscenely hypocritical starts to approach it a little bit.

2. "Many of your fans are opposed to such a view and feel it has no place in a sport that is strictly for pride, entertainment, and excitement." Holy fucking shitballs. Did you seriously just say that, as someone who's "deeply involved in government task forces on the legacy of slavery in Maryland"? Have you not heard of Kenny Washington? Jackie Robinson? As recently as 1962 the NFL still had segregation, which was only done away with by brave athletes and coaches daring to speak their mind and do the right thing, and you're going to say that political views have "no place in a sport"? I can't even begin to fathom the cognitive dissonance that must be coursing through your rapidly addled mind right now; the mental gymnastics your brain has to tortuously contort itself through to make such a preposterous statement are surely worthy of an Olympic gold medal (the Russian judge gives you a 10 for "beautiful oppressionism").

3. This is more a personal quibble of mine, but why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate the fact that other people want a chance to live their lives and be happy, even though they may believe in something different than you, or act different than you? How does gay marriage, in any way shape or form, affect your life? If gay marriage becomes legal, are you worried that all of a sudden you'll start thinking about penis? "Oh shit. Gay marriage just passed. Gotta get me some of that hot dong action!" Will all of your friends suddenly turn gay and refuse to come to your Sunday Ticket grill-outs? (Unlikely, since gay people enjoy watching football too.)

I can assure you that gay people getting married will have zero effect on your life. They won't come into your house and steal your children. They won't magically turn you into a lustful cockmonster. They won't even overthrow the government in an orgy of hedonistic debauchery because all of a sudden they have the same legal rights as the other 90 percent of our population—rights like Social Security benefits, child care tax credits, Family and Medical Leave to take care of loved ones, and COBRA healthcare for spouses and children. You know what having these rights will make gays? Full-fledged American citizens just like everyone else, with the freedom to pursue happiness and all that entails. Do the civil-rights struggles of the past 200 years mean absolutely nothing to you?

In closing, I would like to say that I hope this letter, in some small way, causes you to reflect upon the magnitude of the colossal foot in mouth clusterfuck you so brazenly unleashed on a man whose only crime was speaking out for something he believed in. Best of luck in the next election; I'm fairly certain you might need it.

Sincerely,
Chris Kluwe

P.S. I've also been vocal as hell about the issue of gay marriage so you can take your "I know of no other NFL player who has done what Mr. Ayanbadejo is doing" and shove it in your close-minded, totally lacking in empathy piehole and choke on it. Asshole.

http://deadspin.com/5941348/they-wont-magically-turn-you-into-a-lustful-****monster-chris-kluwe-explains-gay-marriage-to-the-politician-who-is-offended-by-an-nfl-player-supporting-it

[mulletman]

That letter is awesome.

[herbivor]

Gay people have the same rights heterosexuals have. They have the right to *marry* someone of the opposite sex.

The definition of marriage has changed over time. Polygamy was once defined as "marriage", but now it is not. Same-sex marriage has occurred in Ancient Greece, Rome and China. The definition of "marriage" differs even today amongst different cultures. The only people with an agenda to define the social contract of marriage being defined as that of a man and woman, are those of religious faith, because their faith defines marriage for them. But for the government to recognize a religious definition of marriage is unconstitutional. To comply with the constitution, the government should not recognize any marriages, only legalized civil unions. If Obama gets to appoint another judge to the Supreme Court, the case will be brought to them at that time and the court will recognize the prohibition of same sex marriage as unconstitutional as many state supreme courts have already done.

[cale]

The definition of marriage has changed over time.

Many things have changed over time that the US has failed to recognize or keep up with, it's really quite pathetic. They're at the forefront in some aspects of advancement while being on par with developing countries on other topics.

I genuinely think some of the rules of evolution of species will apply to social structures. The strongest don't survive, those best suited to adaptation do. The strong survive relatively short periods of hardship, but only those capable of adapting to permanent change will stand the test of time.

[rwh11385]

Many things have changed over time that the US has failed to recognize or keep up with, it's really quite pathetic. They're at the forefront in some aspects of advancement while being on par with developing countries on other topics.

I genuinely think some of the rules of evolution of species will apply to social structures. The strongest don't survive, those best suited to adaptation do. The strong survive relatively short periods of hardship, but only those capable of adapting to permanent change will stand the test of time.

Or the fact that I can't buy packaged liquor on Sundays... Git yur bible away from my party plans. (Or that it's illegal to have oral sex in some Southern States)

Obviously the fundamental civil right to marry is more important. But the US has a lot of socially backwards and behind the times on a lot of issues.

It becomes immediately clear how much of a selfish asshole you have to be to be against gay marriage when you're forced to tell a gay person to their face that you do not think they're deserving of the same rights as straight couples. Especially when that person is an elderly veteran. I'm surprised he didn't also ask Mitt about his opinions on gays serving in the military.

This.


Irony though is the same people complain about government getting involved in people's business when it should butt out. Except when it has to do with gays or women's bodies I guess.

[Kershaw]

pretty much, yeah.

[evandael]

No the gay community is.

what the actual fuck. so what effect does the previous 7-8 posts have on you? I can't believe there are enough people like you out there to make this positive, forward social change as difficult as it has been.


I personally think this interview should be enough to dig Romneys grave for this election. how anyone so stubborn and ignorant and downright inconsiderate could become president of the US doesn't say much for the moral state of our country.

[mrsleeve]

^

Thats the problem with the office of POTUS, Someone who has stones and is inconsiderate enough and stubborn enough, and tuff enough, cant be elected. You cant elect a strong leader they have to be pushover pussies to try and appease enough people to be electable, and that is not a strong leader. They have to appease so many little special interest groups that they have no spine left, and cant make a hard choice for it might piss off a group (unless its the other side of the isle that is) they need to get back in all integrity is lost.

[devon.818]

im as anti-obama as they come, for a lot of reasons, such as he's the reason my tax money is paying for some fuck from ghana to get his MB for free!
BUT, that just pisses me off, which is all fine and good, mr.mitt however, well he's just a fucking retard. america would be digressing if mitt got elected.

and my politics view; let me have my guns, fuck taxes, equal rights happy horse shit, secure the borders, and keep your freaking church away from me, unless its the church of free blowjobs...then i might entertain the idea

[Kershaw]

i cant believe you just implied that obama has no spine when he is pushing gay marriage, healthcare, legalizing weed,... things he is instituting based on good legal and scientific doctrine, completely disregarding the "good morals" of nearly half the US.

[evandael]

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Thats the problem with the office of POTUS, Someone who has stones and is inconsiderate enough and stubborn enough, and tuff enough, cant be elected. You cant elect a strong leader they have to be pushover pussies to try and appease enough people to be electable, and that is not a strong leader. They have to appease so many little special interest groups that they have no spine left, and cant make a hard choice for it might piss off a group (unless its the other side of the isle that is) they need to get back in all integrity is lost.

gay rights aren't a in issue to be 'tuff' on. they are people. they have rights (that are being denied them on the basis of confusing antiquated religious dogma with democratic progress and governing). if candidate XXXX is willing to tell a constituent of his nation that he believes he doesn't have the same rights as everyone else, that's a goddamned problem.


this not like being tough on people travelling 20+ mph over the speed limit, or being tough on kids in k-12 who start fights at lunch. it's a matter of real people's inalienable rights. i thought you over all else would recognize this? deep down you likely do, only you elect to stifle that realization by adhering to a religion.


and @ devon.. when you grow up maybe you'll understand real issues, instead of just making weak jokes in line with your embarrassing view of American ideals.