Gay Veteran talks to Mitt Romney

[rwh11385]

Why would you expect to change the definition of word thats at the core of over 70% of the populations beliefs over night LITERALLY ????

Because people don't want to be seen as these assholes when they talk to their kids:



It has NOT BEEN OVERNIGHT:


A long-standing trend, as obvious by this chart.

Your statistic of 70% of the population being against gay marriage hasn't been accurate since the early 90s. Just come to the conclusion that you are behind the times by a couple decades.

[mrsleeve]

We are debating the use of a WORD, not if someone is a some kinda of lesser person and needs to be kept away from everyone else. NEVER have I made that assertion you have twisted things into that. Yes I drew a parallel, but your trying to pigeon hole that into some kinda of bigoted rant. Which it was not, just making a point that not normal, is not normal for what ever reason not that they should be treated different .

Again please tell me where I have said they should not be have the same thing as a straight couple, I advocate for it remember. they would have all those things by now.

[rwh11385]

We are debating the use of a WORD, not if someone is a some kinda of lesser person and needs to be kept away from everyone else. NEVER have I made that assertion you have twisted things into that. Yes I drew a parallel, but your trying to pigeon hole that into some kinda of bigoted rant. Which it was not, just making a point that not normal, is not normal for what ever reason.

Again please tell me where I have said they should not be have the same thing as a straight couple, I advocate for it remember. they would have all those things by now.

While debating if your definition of a word should limit a person's civil rights, you made the comparison that gay people are malfuctions like people with downs syndrome. That comparison is offensive and ignorant. I didn't twist that comparison, you made it.

You also think people standing up for their rights is them being too vocal and all up in your face. Do you feel the same way about MLK, Rosa Parks, and the women who burned their bras? Since when does it matter more about your annoyance with people speaking up about their rights than their rights? If you give them their fundamental civil rights, they'll stop having to protest for them.

Your 'statistics' and assumptions are also out of date and wrong. Your views are now the national minority. So now you're ironically the vocal minority shitting on people's lives and getting all up in their face about it.

[mrsleeve]

While debating if your definition of a word should limit a person's civil rights, you made the comparison that gay people are malfuctions like people with downs syndrome. That comparison is offensive and ignorant. I didn't twist that comparison, you made it.
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Well is that assessment off base ?? You take to the theory of evolution right???

I said a genetic malfunction durring gestation, as in they have some fucked up genetic code that makes them the way they are, as in if it didnt happen they would not be gay right??? It dose not make them sub human nor have I said or implied such things, like your trying to infer with your retorts. You have twisted it into that not me.


Well so be it, you win. Let the gays get gay married and go forth and frolic

[rwh11385]

Well is that assessment off base ?? You take to the theory of evolution right???

I said a genetic malfunction durring gestation, as in they have some fucked up genetic code that makes them the way they are, as in if it didnt happen they would not be gay right??? It dose not make them sub human like your trying to infer with your retorts. You have twisted it into that not me.

You're the one who compared them to kids with down syndrome, remember? That comments a lot on your view about gays, doesn't it?

It was WAY off base. You shouldn't claim that gays are "fucked up" the way they are. It makes you sound like an ignorant asshole. It's not me twisting you into that, it's just who you are.

Left-handed people are also different than the rest of society, but generally are accepted as human still... by modern society. (although they haven't always been respected... but some people are close-minded assholes)

[LowR3V'in]

allot of gays here.

[Cliche Guevara]

Ummmmm No.................. they dont have to use a separate Homos only public restroom, or water fountains, go to homo only schools, use homo only public transit, now do they. That is separate but equal and is unconstitutional. A word that more accurately defines their relationship status is not!!

Brown vs Board of Education didn't just list a number of areas where "separate but equal" isn't acceptable, it acknowledged that the entire idea of separate but equal unconstitutional. You are advocating for gays to be relegated to a separate institution that, in theory, will be equal. That's unconstitutional. There's no way around that fact.

[Kershaw]

[evandael]

^on an unrelated note, why does US history marginalize the mass genocide (unintentional and intentional) of Native Americans?


oh yeah, right. we have god on our side! great excuse for all sorts of inexcusable behavior and mindsets..

[mrsleeve]

Yes the navies were all peace loving and harmonious with each other too.

[Kershaw]

two wrongs dont make a right. and the wars that they had with each other are just dwarfed by genocide.

[mrsleeve]

No there were no tribes trying to wipe out another at all, no genocide there right

There you go again looking at clolonial times through the tint of your modern rose colored glasses.

[mar1t1me]

Being he is of the LDS faith, i am not suprised by this. They are iron clad on their ideals dealing with gay issues.

Wasn't that long ago they were "ironclad" on their stance that non-whites were the only ones that could preach. There was a "New Revelation" to the Elders in 1978 which, interestingly, coincided with a threat from the Federal government regarding the removal of tax exempt status. Funny how God and the Government work together so seamlessly.

[der affe]

Imagine that! Funny how threat of loosing your tax exemption can be a motivator to modify your religious "ideals". Btw, i am very anti religion incase you missed that.