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  • Kershaw
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    omfg. that's not even funny.

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  • Grand525
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  • mrsleeve
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    Um. Just a question here. Why is that healt care should be a service provided by govt. When did that become a fundemental corrner stone of the function and role of govt in the governed lives????


    Just a question is all

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  • gwb72tii
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    Originally posted by Cliche Guevara
    Do you pay attention to Europe, or do you just regurgitate right-wing talking points? Europe's problems stem far more from their numerous entitlement programs than their various universal health care systems. Just look at Germany, they've weathered the recession quite well and have a remarkably well balanced budget, all while continuing to provide healthcare for each and every one of their citizens.
    you need to dig deeper than whatever one page talking memo you read
    germany is headed to a cliff as well, just not a soon as the others
    oh, and universal healthcare IS an entitlement, according to european womb-to-tomb economies

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  • Cliche Guevara
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    Originally posted by gwb72tii
    ever pay attention to europe?
    think they're going to live with it?
    Do you pay attention to Europe, or do you just regurgitate right-wing talking points? Europe's problems stem far more from their numerous entitlement programs than their various universal health care systems. Just look at Germany, they've weathered the recession quite well and have a remarkably well balanced budget, all while continuing to provide healthcare for each and every one of their citizens.

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  • gwb72tii
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    Originally posted by Pl3wA
    if the rest of the world can survive with it. i think we should be good right? right?
    ever pay attention to europe?
    think they're going to live with it?

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  • Pl3wA
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    if the rest of the world can survive with it. i think we should be good right? right?

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  • mrsleeve
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    Originally posted by Kershaw
    so.... what about the 2.1 billion dollars it saved consumers last year?

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...-Is-it-working
    What did it cost in taxation to the rest of us ????

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  • Cliche Guevara
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    Originally posted by Kershaw
    so.... what about the 2.1 billion dollars it saved consumers last year?

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...-Is-it-working
    The Monitor is a somewhat right learning publication, too. It's one of my main sources of news, after The Economist.

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  • Kershaw
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    so.... what about the 2.1 billion dollars it saved consumers last year?

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...-Is-it-working

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  • mrsleeve
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    if you still think 0 care is progress and a step in the right direction and not backwards even when presented with facts then we cant help you

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  • Morrison
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    I don't have time to fact check the drivel of Dr. Barbara, but I don't take uber issue with the whole thing. Sure it could be better but that's what progress is for.

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  • gwb72tii
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    and the unintended (or intended) consequences

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  • gwb72tii
    started a topic what is obamacare anyways

    what is obamacare anyways

    “So, let me get this straight (this is a long sentence), we’re going to be gifted with a healthcare plan we are forced to purchase, and fined if we don’t, which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a congress that didn’t read it, but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, for which we will be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that’s broke. So what the blank could possibly go wrong?”

    Barbara Bellar

    Dr. Bellar is not your typical politician and certainly does not fit the mold of a “Chicago” politico. In fact, she’s:
    • An ex-nun
    • An Army Reserve vet
    • A family practice physician (as she says, “from cradle to grave, from diapers to diapers, from womb to tomb”)
    • A lawyer
    • A motorcycle-riding, animal lover

    issherightorwat
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