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  • mrsleeve
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Mar 2005
    • 16385

    #91
    did I read correctly where the o man says he wants to reenact the assault weapons ban ???



    Yeah that will get you elected ......................................
    Originally posted by Fusion
    If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


    The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
    William Pitt-

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    • streetwaves
      Grease Monkey
      • Nov 2009
      • 328

      #92
      I can't believe anyone on either side watches these things and comes online complaining about what Obama or Romney said. This shit is nothing but theater. Debates are 90% or more decided on the performance, not the substance. Scored that way, Romney won the first, Biden won the second, and Obama won the third. Forget the specifics mentioned, or lack thereof. Most of the population are 'low-information voters' regardless of party affiliation.

      The fact always remains that these are two major party candidates with a shitload of money behind them. They're not going to answer tough questions in great detail. They're not going to tell the whole truth. I can't believe people get all riled up about one of the two guys. I hear it all the time from the conservatives at work who get all riled up about Obama. What is wrong with you? Every time I ask them what they hate so much about him, they go off on some tangent about something they heard Rush say that makes no sense. These people aren't reading documents and researching on their own. The two parties are different in mostly superficial ways.

      IMO The system doesn't work and that's it. Maybe no system can. Time for anarchy?
      Last edited by streetwaves; 10-16-2012, 09:00 PM.

      Current: 1990 325iS | Past: 1991 318iS

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      • Wiglaf
        E30 Mastermind
        • Jan 2007
        • 1513

        #93
        binders full of women,submission,romney,election,election 2012


        well that sure didn't take long
        sigpic
        Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
        If you ever sell that car, tell me first. I want to be the first to not be able to afford it.

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        • joshh
          R3V OG
          • Aug 2004
          • 6195

          #94
          Originally posted by mrsleeve
          did I read correctly where the o man says he wants to reenact the assault weapons ban ???



          Yeah that will get you elected ......................................


          Yeah that was the forced part....they thought that was the moderate in him.
          Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

          "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

          ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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          • streetwaves
            Grease Monkey
            • Nov 2009
            • 328

            #95
            Originally posted by joshh
            Yeah that was the forced part....they thought that was the moderate in him.
            By the way, your sig quote attributed to Obama is deliberately misleading. You should include the appropriate preceding context: "Somebody invested in roads and bridges." Not sure what the point is of taking something out of context to make it sound as if he said something completely contrary to what he did say.

            Oh, partisans. So useless to society, and yet so prevalent.

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            • mrsleeve
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Mar 2005
              • 16385

              #96
              ^

              You can try and spin that with waht ever context you want to put in front or behind it, still does not negate the intent of that quote!!!
              Originally posted by Fusion
              If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
              The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


              The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

              Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
              William Pitt-

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              • Morrison
                E30 Addict
                • May 2006
                • 430

                #97
                I liked Romney's tax plan the way it was described last night. It seemed different than I'd heard it before.

                He basically indicated that above 200k income, deductions such as mortgage interest would become unavailable. Those people under that amount can pick and choose from the already existing deductions however they want as long as those deductions don't exceed 25k which seems perfectly generous. And lower rates across the board if I'm not mistaken. Plus a zero percent capital gains rate for those under 200k.

                Was I hearing that right? And is this what it's always been?
                "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm."
                -Franklin D. Roosevelt

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                • iamsam
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 172

                  #98
                  Anyone want to provide quick cliffs on last night's debate?

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                  • streetwaves
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 328

                    #99
                    Originally posted by mrsleeve
                    ^

                    You can try and spin that with waht ever context you want to put in front or behind it, still does not negate the intent of that quote!!!
                    This is fairly simple: quote was taken out of context to make it look like it had a totally different meaning. Not sure why you're so confused, or why this somehow is up for debate.

                    Also, it does not qualify as "spinning" to simply include the preceding one sentence. Apparently the points you try to make require a very delicate balance in order to work.

                    Current: 1990 325iS | Past: 1991 318iS

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                    • lambo
                      Captain Scene Points
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 10953

                      #100
                      Originally posted by streetwaves
                      I can't believe anyone on either side watches these things and comes online complaining about what Obama or Romney said. This shit is nothing but theater. Debates are 90% or more decided on the performance, not the substance. Scored that way, Romney won the first, Biden won the second, and Obama won the third. Forget the specifics mentioned, or lack thereof. Most of the population are 'low-information voters' regardless of party affiliation.

                      The fact always remains that these are two major party candidates with a shitload of money behind them. They're not going to answer tough questions in great detail. They're not going to tell the whole truth. I can't believe people get all riled up about one of the two guys. I hear it all the time from the conservatives at work who get all riled up about Obama. What is wrong with you? Every time I ask them what they hate so much about him, they go off on some tangent about something they heard Rush say that makes no sense. These people aren't reading documents and researching on their own. The two parties are different in mostly superficial ways.

                      IMO The system doesn't work and that's it. Maybe no system can. Time for anarchy?
                      Thank you for my daily dosage of truth. I hate it that I don't really have the time nor attention span to actually sufficiently research this first-hand. Because of this I find myself avoiding political discussions and I find myself wanting to punch certain "political aficionados" I see on fuckin' Facebook in the face...

                      Originally posted by SpasticDwarf;n6449866
                      Honestly I built it just to have a place to sit and listen to Hotline Bling on repeat.

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                      • BraveUlysses
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 3781

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Morrison
                        I liked Romney's tax plan the way it was described last night. It seemed different than I'd heard it before.

                        He basically indicated that above 200k income, deductions such as mortgage interest would become unavailable. Those people under that amount can pick and choose from the already existing deductions however they want as long as those deductions don't exceed 25k which seems perfectly generous. And lower rates across the board if I'm not mistaken. Plus a zero percent capital gains rate for those under 200k.

                        Was I hearing that right? And is this what it's always been?
                        What he should really be suggesting is another high end tax bracket (500k-1M and up) and remove the mortgage interest deduction from that bracket.

                        I'm not saying 200k/yr is rich but if you do make that much, to be in the same bracket as millionaires and billionaires is insane.

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                        • Thizzelle
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 4422

                          #102
                          fat waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles mediator needed to step the fuck out of some of the arguments, dumb waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles.
                          "I wanna see da boat movie"
                          "I got a tree on my house"

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                          • CorvallisBMW
                            Long Schlong Longhammer
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 13039

                            #103
                            Originally posted by Wiglaf
                            http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

                            well that sure didn't take long
                            lulz

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                            • Thizzelle
                              R3V Elite
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 4422

                              #104
                              Obama just seems like Robin Hood and wants more govt. control and only to help the poor and lazy out, meh..

                              I'm undecided but he is looking shittier and shittier and for the last 4 years WTF has he done? I don't follow this bullshit. Help me out.
                              "I wanna see da boat movie"
                              "I got a tree on my house"

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                              • Morrison
                                E30 Addict
                                • May 2006
                                • 430

                                #105
                                Brave, you're absolutely right. We used to have far more tax brackets here in America. I believe it was Reagan who simplified it by having less of them. But I don't agree that simpler is better as illustrated by your comparison.
                                "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird and not enough the bad luck of the early worm."
                                -Franklin D. Roosevelt

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