who will win the election?

[mrsleeve]

as much as the 0 (and you seem) to wish he had dictatorial powers of decree, he had to compromise to get started on the way to what he belies..............

your right actions do speak louder than words



and please read the edit to may last post

[tjts1]

the intent of the law is to have a single payer system take over. obama knows that would never pass on its own, but designed in incentives to business to throw their employees into the national system.
under 30 hours is part time and businesses don't have to offer you insurance. guess what? your hours are going to be cut and you ahve to fend for yourself.
or a business does a quick calculation, determines that a o-care penalty for not insuring is about 1/4 the cost of insuring, and dumps its employess intot he national system.
that is the intent

But look on the bright side. After today you're going to have 4 more years to bitch and moan about how Obama is fucking you in the ass with a broom stick. Isn't that worth it? You can keep blaming your personal problems on some black dude in the white house. Its a win win for you.

[turge]

WTF is wrong with politics in America?
The black panthers are now at Philly voting locations, and now ex-Seals are showing up as well.

http://twitchy.com/2012/11/06/new-bl...-intimidation/

lol if I saw those fools outside a voting place I'd call the cops. Voter intimidation works both ways. Just because you are a "minority" doesn't give you the right to intimidate people.

[Grand525]

You are the problem

But look on the bright side. After today you're going to have 4 more years to bitch and moan about how Obama is fucking you in the ass with a broom stick. Isn't that worth it? You can keep blaming your personal problems on some black dude in the white house. Its a win win for you.

If you vote for Romney or Obama, you are communicating that you're the problem, not the solution.

Here is why

[rwh11385]

i disagree.
this election is similar to 2008 where enthusiasm and momentum is a big deal. the tea party will volte en mass, as will the evangelicals etc, all for romney. all the enthusiasm/momentum is on romney's side. i have a number of friens who voted obama but will now vote romney, which surprised me as they're very liberal typically.
democrats out voted republs by 8% in 2008, projections are today repubs will out vote dems by 3%.
romney wins easily at the end with 5% more popular vote than O, and by a wide margin in the electoral college

You make as good of a pollster as you do a provider of economic insight.

[rwh11385]

Very interesting piece, and I believe highly accurate. Explains why there was such a disconnect between Republican expectations and the outcome.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/revenge-of-the-reality-based-community/

Frankly, I think I’m at ground zero in the saga of Republicans closing their eyes to any facts or evidence that conflict with their dogma. Rather than listen to me, they threw me under a bus.

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I began writing columns that were highly critical of Bush’s policies and those of Republicans in Congress—all based on solid conservative principles. In other words, I was criticizing them from the inside, from the right.

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A couple of weeks before the 2004 election, Suskind wrote a long article for the New York Times Magazine that quoted some of my comments to him that were highly critical of Bush and the drift of Republican policy. The article is best remembered for his quote from an anonymous White House official dismissing critics like me for being “the reality-based community.”

The day after the article appeared, my boss called to chew me out, saying that Karl Rove had called him personally to complain about it. I promised to be more circumspect in the future.

Interestingly, a couple of days after the Suskind article appeared, I happened to be at a reception for some right-wing organization that many of my think tank friends were also attending. I assumed I would get a lot of grief for my comments in the Suskind article and was surprised when there was none at all.

Finally, I started asking people about it. Not one person had read it or cared in the slightest what the New York Times had to say about anything. They all viewed it as having as much credibility as Pravda and a similar political philosophy as well. Some were indignant that I would even suspect them of reading a left-wing rag such as the New York Times.

I was flabbergasted. Until that moment I had not realized how closed the right-wing mind had become. Even assuming that my friends’ view of the Times’ philosophy was correct, which it most certainly was not, why would they not want to know what their enemy was thinking? This was my first exposure to what has been called “epistemic closure” among conservatives—living in their own bubble where nonsensical ideas circulate with no contradiction.

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Among the interesting reactions to my book is that I was banned from Fox News. My publicist was told that orders had come down from on high that it was to receive no publicity whatsoever, not even attacks. Whoever gave that order was smart; attacks from the right would have sold books. Being ignored was poison for sales.

I later learned that the order to ignore me extended throughout Rupert Murdoch’s empire. For example, I stopped being quoted in the Wall Street Journal.* Awhile back, a reporter who left the Journal confirmed to me that the paper had given her orders not to mention me. Other dissident conservatives, such as David Frum and Andrew Sullivan, have told me that they are banned from Fox as well. More epistemic closure.

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The final line for me to cross in complete alienation from the right was my recognition that Obama is not a leftist. In fact, he’s barely a liberal—and only because the political spectrum has moved so far to the right that moderate Republicans from the past are now considered hardcore leftists by right-wing standards today. Viewed in historical context, I see Obama as actually being on the center-right.

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So here we are, post-election 2012. All the stupidity and closed-mindedness that right-wingers have displayed over the last 10 years has come back to haunt them. It is now widely understood that the nation may be center-left after all, not center-right as conservatives thought. Overwhelming losses by Republicans to all the nation’s nonwhite voters have created a Democratic coalition that will govern the nation for the foreseeable future.

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At least a few conservatives now recognize that Republicans suffer for epistemic closure. They were genuinely shocked at Romney’s loss because they ignored every poll not produced by a right-wing pollster such as Rasmussen or approved by right-wing pundits such as the perpetually wrong Dick Morris. Living in the Fox News cocoon, most Republicans had no clue that they were losing or that their ideas were both stupid and politically unpopular.

I am disinclined to think that Republicans are yet ready for a serious questioning of their philosophy or strategy. They comfort themselves with the fact that they held the House (due to gerrymandering) and think that just improving their get-out-the-vote system and throwing a few bones to the Latino community will fix their problem. There appears to be no recognition that their defects are far, far deeper and will require serious introspection and rethinking of how Republicans can win going forward. The alternative is permanent loss of the White House and probably the Senate as well, which means they can only temporarily block Democratic initiatives and never advance their own.

Rings too true with several posters here.

[CorvallisBMW]

He makes some very good points, I've heard similar opinions from many of the less dogmatic/extreme conservative commentators out there. Unfortunately the Republican party has been hijacked by the very-far right and the ideologues, and has spent the better part of the last decade pandering to them. While that may get your base fired up during the primaries, it will never win you an election.

[ethrtyiS]

we need a true conservative running for office, not a moderate. we need another reagan. he was one of the last true conservatives.

[iamsam]

I still think Obama is going to win the election, no matter what anyone says, even though the odds are in Romney's favor right now.

[rwh11385]

Unfortunately the Republican party has been hijacked by the very-far right and the ideologues, and has spent the better part of the last decade pandering to them.

Bingo. It shows in the inability of Congress to accomplish anything too. http://www.xkcd.com/1127/



It's just a wash of Tea Partiers.

[tjts1]

If you vote for Romney or Obama, you are communicating that you're the problem, not the solution.

Here is why

I take that as a compliment. I'm more than happy to be the problem.

we need a true conservative running for office, not a moderate. we need another reagan. he was one of the last true conservatives.

Yeah good luck getting that character elected. The country has moved one.

I still think Obama is going to win the election, no matter what anyone says, even though the odds are in Romney's favor right now.

I'm not so sure.

[DaveNorCal]

Am I in a time warp?

[Pl3wA]

i can tell obama is going to get re-elected. this is going to be a close race!

[CorvallisBMW]

^ No way, I heard Karl Rove on Fox News saying that Romney is guaranteed to win. And they're always right!

[Pl3wA]

O damn, i better shave my mustache