Obama drove an E30 back in the day..would that change people minds?
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nope, I would not consider you a "leech". I think the "leeches" are the ones who are content to not work and live off unemployment, etc. You, on the other hand, are trying to get ahead, and that makes all the difference.This thread delivers !
Hi,
I'm one of those "leeches" that all of you who voted for Romney are talking about! How exciting is that, you can talk to my face, instead of talking about "us". I'm 22 years old, I'm in college and financial aid (taxes you and I both pay) pays for part of my tuition. My girlfriend is pregnant and now she is on AHCCCS (Arizona's state healthcare service) because there is no way we could afford health insurance. She also gets food stamps, about 140$ a month (more tax money from you and I). I work three jobs and do side work whenever possible while going to school full time and we barely manage to scrape by. She is now seven-months pregnant and has been working near-full time (as much as they will give her) the entire time and plans to until she can no longer physically do it. We don't have expensive things, we don't shop (except for food), we rarely go out, we live with my parents, and we're very happy and unbelievably excited to be having our son late this year or early next! Without government support I have no clue how we would make it. I've been working no less than two full-time jobs and paying taxes since age 16, I commonly work 3-6 months without a day off. I am one of your so-called "leeches".
So I have to ask, should I be cut-off? Growing up I've watched my hard-earned taxes fund completely unnecessary wars and make very rich people richer while I watched my country's deficit sky-rocket. Now, at least my tax money is helping me and my family directly, without a doubt. I've stood in line at the DES with wonderful people who desperately need the help they receive, and I've also seen people who appear to be total trash, but who am I to judge? I don't know them, they are god's children just the same as I am, and just the same as people suffering around the world, despite their beliefs.
So please, tell me to my face that the government should cut me and my family off, be a man about it.
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Don't get so excited. Like I said several times before, I'm no Romney fan. It's about what Obama wants vs what he can actually get implemented. And as much as you and the rest of the libs might joke, McCarthy was correct.
Romney never said leaches did he...lol.yep, the 47% of blood sucking leaches right?
at least Romney has some class and was gracious in defeat. I thought if it ended up being close, there would be a flurry of lawsuits and it would drag on forever. it was close, but both of Bush's terms were won on far slimmer margins. I think it shows his inner character, too bad it was hijacked by the extremes of the GOP.
But yet Obama wanted people to vote for revenge.
You seemed to have eaten all the bullshit that has been fed to you nicely.
Politics is not business, and if you look at Romney's resume although he personally is successful many are worse off because of his desire for being profitable. Is that what you want for your leader, someone who's willing to do whatever it takes regardless of casualties to turn the deficit around?
This combined with the fact that a huge portion of the debt that piled up while Obama was in office was from past administrations doesn't look too good for your comprehension of whats actually transpired and who's to blame. Did he make some bad choices? Absolutely! Is he solely responsible for the numbers you're seeing today? Fuck no, and you're an idiot if you think so.
No but the government internally can be run just like a business. It has a budget, it has employees, it has bills and it has most everything else a normal business has.
10.5 trillion was on the books before Obama took office. Obama raised that to 16 trillion in just four years. And you're an idiot if you think what Obama was handed was all Bush's fault.Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison
"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack ObamaComment
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This thread delivers !
Hi,
I'm one of those "leeches" that all of you who voted for Romney are talking about! How exciting is that, you can talk to my face, instead of talking about "us". I'm 22 years old, I'm in college and financial aid (taxes you and I both pay) pays for part of my tuition. My girlfriend is pregnant and now she is on AHCCCS (Arizona's state healthcare service) because there is no way we could afford health insurance. She also gets food stamps, about 140$ a month (more tax money from you and I). I work three jobs and do side work whenever possible while going to school full time and we barely manage to scrape by. She is now seven-months pregnant and has been working near-full time (as much as they will give her) the entire time and plans to until she can no longer physically do it. We don't have expensive things, we don't shop (except for food), we rarely go out, we live with my parents, and we're very happy and unbelievably excited to be having our son late this year or early next! Without government support I have no clue how we would make it. I've been working no less than two full-time jobs and paying taxes since age 16, I commonly work 3-6 months without a day off. I am one of your so-called "leeches".
So I have to ask, should I be cut-off? Growing up I've watched my hard-earned taxes fund completely unnecessary wars and make very rich people richer while I watched my country's deficit sky-rocket. Now, at least my tax money is helping me and my family directly, without a doubt. I've stood in line at the DES with wonderful people who desperately need the help they receive, and I've also seen people who appear to be total trash, but who am I to judge? I don't know them, they are god's children just the same as I am, and just the same as people suffering around the world, despite their beliefs.
So please, tell me to my face that the government should cut me and my family off, be a man about it.
- Kai
Is that your E30 in your Sig? You have a 77 280Z...project car? Is that a picture of it in you avatar? I do love your "give me or else" entitlement attitude though.Last edited by joshh; 11-07-2012, 08:36 AM.Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison
"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack ObamaComment
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can I ask you, why would you get her pregnant if you knew you could NOT afford it?This thread delivers !
Hi,
I'm one of those "leeches" that all of you who voted for Romney are talking about! How exciting is that, you can talk to my face, instead of talking about "us". I'm 22 years old, I'm in college and financial aid (taxes you and I both pay) pays for part of my tuition. My girlfriend is pregnant and now she is on AHCCCS (Arizona's state healthcare service) because there is no way we could afford health insurance. She also gets food stamps, about 140$ a month (more tax money from you and I). I work three jobs and do side work whenever possible while going to school full time and we barely manage to scrape by. She is now seven-months pregnant and has been working near-full time (as much as they will give her) the entire time and plans to until she can no longer physically do it. We don't have expensive things, we don't shop (except for food), we rarely go out, we live with my parents, and we're very happy and unbelievably excited to be having our son late this year or early next! Without government support I have no clue how we would make it. I've been working no less than two full-time jobs and paying taxes since age 16, I commonly work 3-6 months without a day off. I am one of your so-called "leeches".
So I have to ask, should I be cut-off? Growing up I've watched my hard-earned taxes fund completely unnecessary wars and make very rich people richer while I watched my country's deficit sky-rocket. Now, at least my tax money is helping me and my family directly, without a doubt. I've stood in line at the DES with wonderful people who desperately need the help they receive, and I've also seen people who appear to be total trash, but who am I to judge? I don't know them, they are god's children just the same as I am, and just the same as people suffering around the world, despite their beliefs.
So please, tell me to my face that the government should cut me and my family off, be a man about it.
- Kai"I wanna see da boat movie"
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I have science degree, I'm not religious, I just don't want to keep helping lazy retarded people.
I'm where I'm at because I thought into the future and made good decisions to set myself up to where I am today.
More than half of the kids from my high school are still living at home or who the fuck knows WTF they are doing, and are right around the 30 age. WTF"I wanna see da boat movie"
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It's become the platform to pander to angry white males. Even Republicans are questioning the platform's future if it can't move past it.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49722937
Back in August, Graham had said: “The demographics race we’re losing badly. We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”Comment
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I'm pretty sure the person Mitt was as Governor could have possibly won. But the shell he evolved into for the GOP was an anchor around his neck, along with some of his comments.
What ought to pain Republicans most about Barack Obama’s victory is that 2012 was entirely winnable for them. In European elections over the past few...
Why Mitt Lost
He couldn’t separate himself from the Republican Party’s growing extremism.
Like the article I posted about Santorum hopefully being the end of an era, hopefully this election will bring the fall of the Tea Partiers who have skewed the GOP more extreme and illogical, and can return the party to something more people can connect with and respect.This failure began with the spectacle of the extended primary season, which was dominated by candidates with views far outside the political mainstream. Rick Santorum rejected the separation of church and state. Newt Gingrich challenged the notion of judicial supremacy. Michele Bachmann claimed the government had been infiltrated by radical Muslims. Donald Trump refused to recognize the validity of Obama’s birth certificate. Rick Perry wanted to take down more parts of the federal government than he could successfully name. In the debates, the country saw the GOP talking to itself and sounding like a bizarre fringe party, not a responsible governing one.
Romney is not a right-wing extremist. To win the nomination, though, he had to feign being one, recasting himself as “severely conservative” and eschewing the reasonableness that made him a successful, moderate governor of the country’s most liberal state. He had to pass muster with his party’s right-wing base on taxes, immigration, climate change, abortion, and gay rights. Many of his statements on these issues were patently insincere, but that was hardly reassuring. Romney’s very insincerity and flexibility made it improbable that he would stand up to the GOP’s hyper-partisan congressional wing once elected any more than he had during the primaries.
Romney’s pandering to the base made it possible for the Obama campaign to portray him as a right-wing radical from the start of the campaign. Fear that he didn’t have the base locked down kept Romney from moving smoothly to the center once he had secured the nomination. It further encouraged his choice of Paul Ryan, a popular figure with the Tea Party. And when Romney tried, much too late, to move closer to the center, Republican Senate candidates, like Todd Akin in Missouri and Richard Mourdock in Indiana, kept popping up with disgusting reminders of the GOP’s retrograde views on gender issues. For women, Latinos, and young voters tempted to abandon Obama, the old Romney might have been a plausible alternative. The new Romney, fettered by a feverish GOP, was too risky a choice. According to exit poll results, Romney won men as expected, but lost among women by 11 points—too large a gender gap to be overcome.
Demographic change and better economic circumstances stand to make the Republican road back to the White House an even steeper climb in future years. Simply put, the party has to present a more conciliatory and reasonable face to sell itself to swing voters. To do that, it must elevate its own moderate voices, cut loose its theocrats, and liberate itself from the domination of Tea Party know-nothings.
So let the season of Republican recriminations begin. The GOP now faces the challenge of self-examination and internal reform that Democrats began to undertake after losing twice to Ronald Reagan. It desperately needs the kind of centrist reform movement that was led on the other side by the Democratic Leadership Council, which paved the way for the election of a centrist Democrat named Bill Clinton. Without that sort of renewal movement, the 2012 election may come to be seen less as a fluke than a harbinger.Comment
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For somebody that claims to be educated you certainly know how to make yourself sound uneducated. Good job.I have science degree, I'm not religious, I just don't want to keep helping lazy retarded people.
I'm where I'm at because I thought into the future and made good decisions to set myself up to where I am today.
More than half of the kids from my high school are still living at home or who the fuck knows WTF they are doing, and are right around the 30 age. WTF
Agreed. The GOP has become the party of religious nut jobs and teabaggers, bankrolled by business interest that find them politically useful. If they want to win presidential elections in the future they need to stop letting themselves be dominated by retards. Oh yeah and keep banging on about the evils of immigrants. The growing latino vote is loving it.Like the article I posted about Santorum hopefully being the end of an era, hopefully this election will bring the fall of the Tea Partiers who have skewed the GOP more extreme and illogical, and can return the party to something more people can connect with and respect.Last edited by tjts1; 11-07-2012, 09:08 AM.
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