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  • tjts1
    E30 Mastermind
    • May 2007
    • 1851

    #136
    Originally posted by frankenbeemer
    May it console you to know: you are the only person on my ignore list.
    Said the guy that quoted me. Let your stupidly shine.

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    • z31maniac
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Dec 2007
      • 17566

      #137
      Originally posted by tjts1
      Said the guy that quoted me. Let your stupidly shine.
      Quoted for posterity.
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      • bpmack16
        E30 Mastermind
        • Aug 2006
        • 1521

        #138
        Tjts1. This may not have happened if there was an armed guard in the school. We arm guards in banks, malls, court houses and office buildings. We protect the rich businesses people of our country with guns and our government people with guns but do nothing for children but feed them gun games and gor movies. Guns in schools save lives.

        The main thing we should focus on is the mental health department in this country. Stop feeding them drugs and open up mental institution s again.

        Not all cops eat shit and sit in there cars. You are another POS system that has a lame excuse foe every thing.

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        • Javier h
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Sep 2007
          • 1189

          #139
          While many pro guns supporters exist make no mistakes, all the polls suggest a ban!

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          • mrsleeve
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Mar 2005
            • 16385

            #140
            What fucking POLLs are you reading. The ones from mother Jones and the Brady bunch ??? Ban is WAY down on the bottom of the lits of supported ideas

            Tjist is a fucking idiot trying to stir the pot
            Originally posted by Fusion
            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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            • SGT4677
              Wrencher
              • Apr 2010
              • 253

              #141
              I was just kinda looking over this data and while this table seems incomplete to me and I havent tried to analyze it, a couple of things stand out.One,the large amount of gun crimes in states that have the most restrictive gun laws,i.e california,illinois,new york,and D.C. Two, the incredibly small amount of crimes commited with a rifle.
              http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...ables/table-20
              1990 325is "the rat"/ E30 Warsteiner tribute racecar/1985 325e "faded Glory"/ 1968 Chevy II Nova "the baby"/ 2001 525i 5spd purchased May 2013 with 16k miles. Plus other junk that annoys the neighbors.

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              • mrsleeve
                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                • Mar 2005
                • 16385

                #142
                ^

                Umm yeah those facts have been pointed out "several times" :)

                Around here fact have to have a leftist bias to be considered creatable, those bit of information you have cited dont support a Leftist argument or have a lefitis bias so there for, around here they are not considered facts. Sorry ;)
                Originally posted by Fusion
                If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                William Pitt-

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                • RGCintha29073
                  E30 Addict
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 471

                  #143
                  Originally posted by future rs
                  NM gun laws aren't bad. How long have you been waiting?

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                  Sent it in the beginning of Nov. I carry open sometimes as it is legal here but the looks i get and I even get told to leave certain places it is just better if nobody but i knew i was packing.

                  Originally posted by bpmack16
                  If you don't have a gun license GET ONE. If you have a gun buy another one. If you have 2 guns buy ammo and large cap mags. Do this ASAP. If you have a brain join the NRA support your rights and the NRA Project School Shield.



                  George Washington: “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government
                  I just finished my last AR build. I am content with what i have right now. I just need to find a place that has ammo!


                  Originally posted by cale
                  Abso-fucking-lutely.

                  Are you in the military, do you even know what the predominant attitude is like amongst any first world military? We're here because of opportunity and some of us a sense of doing good for ones country. To think we blindly follow orders without utilizing our own sense of morality is ignorance. You think soldiers are going to turn their weapons to their own families simply because someone with a few bars told them to do so? I'm willing to bet your simply posing these questions to challenge the pro-gunner's justifications, if not....wow.
                  :up: I am in the military myself, Security Forces to be exact. I love doing what i do, most of the time and i enjoy knowing that i am serving my country as well. As stated i dont care who tells me or how they tell me i will not turn against my own, and i would certainly have a hard time if i was told it was "weapon confiscation time."

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                  • smooth
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1940

                    #144
                    Originally posted by CorvallisBMW
                    The harder you make something to do, the less people will be willing to go through the arduous task to complete it. It's basic human nature: deterrence.
                    Good posting but for future reference you're referring to routine activities and not deterrence theory.

                    deterrence theory states that people will rationally evaluate the benefits of a crime against the cost of doing it in terms of the punishment they're likely to receive.

                    routine activities is a different kind of rational choice theory based on the intersection between motivation and opportunity.


                    deterrence theory supports the claim that if we cut off thieves' hands they (specific) and others (general) will be deterred from stealing.

                    routine activities supports the claim that locking doors will reduce thefts by deterring people who aren't sufficiently motivated to break locks but would have stolen otherwise.



                    Originally posted by SGT4677
                    I was just kinda looking over this data and while this table seems incomplete to me and I havent tried to analyze it, a couple of things stand out.One,the large amount of gun crimes in states that have the most restrictive gun laws,i.e california,illinois,new york,and D.C. Two, the incredibly small amount of crimes commited with a rifle.
                    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...ables/table-20
                    The more interesting fact is that Californians and Texans will beat a motherfucker to death with our hands and feet 4-5x more often than the next highest states!
                    Last edited by smooth; 12-21-2012, 07:35 PM.
                    Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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                    • SGT4677
                      Wrencher
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 253

                      #145
                      Facts and laws dont apply to leftists:
                      1990 325is "the rat"/ E30 Warsteiner tribute racecar/1985 325e "faded Glory"/ 1968 Chevy II Nova "the baby"/ 2001 525i 5spd purchased May 2013 with 16k miles. Plus other junk that annoys the neighbors.

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                      • turge
                        R3VLimited
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2576

                        #146
                        Originally posted by RGCintha29073
                        Sent it in the beginning of Nov. I carry open sometimes as it is legal here but the looks i get and I even get told to leave certain places it is just better if nobody but i knew i was packing.



                        I just finished my last AR build. I am content with what i have right now. I just need to find a place that has ammo!




                        :up: I am in the military myself, Security Forces to be exact. I love doing what i do, most of the time and i enjoy knowing that i am serving my country as well. As stated i dont care who tells me or how they tell me i will not turn against my own, and i would certainly have a hard time if i was told it was "weapon confiscation time."

                        http://www.naturalnews.com/038391_gu...ders_cops.html
                        Sky cop I take it?

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                        • BraveUlysses
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 3781

                          #147
                          Originally posted by SGT4677
                          Facts and laws dont apply to leftists:
                          http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...47f_story.html

                          shitty post is shitty

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                          • mrsleeve
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 16385

                            #148
                            Originally posted by BraveUlysses
                            shitty post is shitty
                            While in general I agree with ya on this (WOW I just said that). And the fact that to me a 30 round AR mag is a standard mag ( I am assuming they used an AR mag I didnt see the MSNBC clip) to me and anyone else that is in the shooting community it is anyway. Dumb ass broke DC law even after being denied permission from the cops, and put it up on a national news site for all too see. He should be subject to the maximum fines and penalties anyone of us would be subject too if we were caught with a Large capacity ammunition feeding device in DC, since they were told specifically that it would be illegal . As arbitrary and illogical as the definition is and regardless of the intentions the law was still broken. Hell you have a loaded mag in your pocket in some states an the firearm is 2 miles away you by law have a leaded weapon in your possession and your going to be subject to the penlites for it.

                            You have to remember things like High Capacity Mag, assault weapon, and this year the new definition of mass shooting that also makes no sense, were just arbitrarily penned into existence for the last AWB by anti gun groups and polititons that have no idea what they were talking about. Also with no consideration taken for what might actually fit into a weapon or is considered standard for a given weapon. A high Capacity mag for a Glock 17 is 30 rounds, for a FN PS90 there are 2 choices for standard mags a 30 and 50 rounder, a standard 1911 mag holds 7 or 8, a High Capacity AR mag holds 50 or 100, a M1 Garand holds 8 and is reloaded form Clips, the M1 Carbine holds 30 IIRC.

                            Standard and High Capacity is not a uniform thing across all weapons systems and platforms, so to try say anything over 10 rounds is a High capacity ammunition feeding device is a bit of a misnomer and silly. Not to mention hurting only 10 people before you reload is so much better, when it only takes 1-5 seconds to reload. Look at Virgina Tech, that ass hat only had 10-12 round mags, and he did way more damage than a guys with mags that hold 3 times that
                            Originally posted by Fusion
                            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                            William Pitt-

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                            • Farbin Kaiber
                              Lil' Puppet
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 29502

                              #149


                              Have you guys taken a look at this yet? Kinda makes me want to move back to California just to vote her out.

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                              • future rs
                                E30 Addict
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 514

                                #150
                                Originally posted by RGCintha29073
                                Sent it in the beginning of Nov. I carry open sometimes as it is legal here but the looks i get and I even get told to leave certain places it is just better if nobody but i knew i was packing.



                                I just finished my last AR build. I am content with what i have right now. I just need to find a place that has ammo!




                                :up: I am in the military myself, Security Forces to be exact. I love doing what i do, most of the time and i enjoy knowing that i am serving my country as well. As stated i dont care who tells me or how they tell me i will not turn against my own, and i would certainly have a hard time if i was told it was "weapon confiscation time."

                                http://www.naturalnews.com/038391_gu...ders_cops.html
                                That's interesting to hear. I find New Mexico a fairly accepting state. Santa fe is the worst imo. Are you in the albuquerque area?



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