Missing Flight MH370 777-200

[Farbin Kaiber]

It's not Rainbow Six.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1...rom-20000-feet

If it's public release that DARPA has this, I'm pretty sure that the US has better tech on their CLASSIFIED spy satellites. And, it's not like they don't have many sets of eyes trained in this portion of the world. Not to mention all the drone work being performed in Seychelles. I'm sorry you think otherwise. I'm gonna say the US knows exactly what happened, why else would they decide to call off the surface SAR and switch to air based platforms tomorrow if USS Kidd finds nothing. They know.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/uss-kidd-ending-search-malaysia-airlines-flight/story?id=22943236

I wanted to make sure and find an acceptable news source for you, hope I did ok.


Also,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/nasa-gets-military-spy-telescopes-for-astronomy/2012/06/04/gJQAsT6UDV_story.html

Analysts believe that the United States spends more money on military and intelligence space operations than on civilian space efforts.

If NRO can just give away two spy rigs that outpace Hubble to NASA, what are they using that would be a reason to not use something more powerful than the telescope that has opened the book on the stars and time?

[DEV0 E30]

Nah, different game was to blame.

"Launching Ion Cannon Frigate."

"..."

"Target destroyed."

[einhander]

maybe they did. Do you think for even a second, the us (or any other superpower) would release the fact that they have real time adaptable/positionable sat imaging that can pinpoint a wayward airliner.

For all we know, there are even demands, that are so large, that the public is not being informed, do you ever see a live update on hostage negotiations? Nope.

It's not Rainbow Six.

[DER E30]

Maybe they did. Do you think for even a second, the US (or any other Superpower) would release the fact that they have real time adaptable/positionable sat imaging that can pinpoint a wayward airliner.

For all we know, there are even demands, that are so large, that the public is not being informed, do you ever see a live update on hostage negotiations? Nope.

They wouldn't, and don't.

[freeride53]

Ah, the Times of Israel. Truly a paper of record...

Well, it's not as bad as the Stickerbomb thread.

Tru dat.

[mulletman]

How fast could a 777 dive from 29,500 to near ground level for terrain mapping? Using the most aggressive method.
Bigger question - If they were at a close tail and did get past radar coverage, could they drop down below the next radar station in time?

How could they hide a thing that big anywhere where a spy satellite wouldn't have seen it? Seems like if they landed and refueled for a few hours, then why didn't somebody's satellite get a picture of a big plane sitting somewhere.


If I can see a garden hose running across my lawn on google maps, then the gov saw it.
Splash.

Probably 4000 feet per minute. Somewhere around there. Maybe a little more. Radar overlaps in most places.

[Farbin Kaiber]

How could they hide a thing that big anywhere where a spy satellite wouldn't have seen it? Seems like if they landed and refueled for a few hours, then why didn't somebody's satellite get a picture of a big plane sitting somewhere.

Maybe they did. Do you think for even a second, the US (or any other Superpower) would release the fact that they have real time adaptable/positionable sat imaging that can pinpoint a wayward airliner.

For all we know, there are even demands, that are so large, that the public is not being informed, do you ever see a live update on hostage negotiations? Nope.

[DER E30]

How fast could a 777 dive from 29,500 to near ground level for terrain mapping? Using the most aggressive method.
Bigger question - If they were at a close tail and did get past radar coverage, could they drop down below the next radar station in time?

How could they hide a thing that big anywhere where a spy satellite wouldn't have seen it? Seems like if they landed and refueled for a few hours, then why didn't somebody's satellite get a picture of a big plane sitting somewhere.


If I can see a garden hose running across my lawn on google maps, then the gov saw it.
Splash.

[cale]

http://jon-browning.photoshelter.com...00EYkx77qiKYA/

Looks to be two lanes in the stuff I can find...

Landing with one set of gear in the dirt, sounds feasible.

[Farbin Kaiber]

This thread.... yikes ....

Well, it's not as bad as the Stickerbomb thread.

[freeride53]

This thread.... yikes ....

[Farbin Kaiber]

So around 2600 to 5000 feet. And being a desert, the temperature isn't going to help your cause.

Long ground roll is long. I'd bet my next paycheck that isn't where the airplane is.

The Takla Makan’s climate is moderately warm and markedly continental, with a maximum annual temperature range of 70 °F (39 °C). Precipitation is extremely low, ranging from 1.5 inches (38 mm) per year in the west to 0.4 inch (10 mm) annually in the east. The air temperature in the summer is high, rising to as much as 100 °F (38 °C) on the eastern edge of the desert. In July the average air temperature is 77 °F (25 °C) in the eastern regions. Winters are cold: In January the average air temperature is 14 to 16 °F (−10 to −9 °C), and the lowest temperature reached in winter generally falls below −4 °F (−20 °C).

I'm looking for data for the 8th, but it's a big area...

[mulletman]

So around 2600 to 5000 feet. And being a desert, the temperature isn't going to help your cause.

Long ground roll is long. I'd bet my next paycheck that isn't where the airplane is.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Well, with the report of MH370 @ FL295(29,500ft), and SQ68 @FL300(30,000ft.) and being 50-100ft trailing, the lead plane would not be able to block all paints. Two distinct blips would exist from most locations getting a reading. The gap would have to be that to prevent turbulence from falling right onto the trailing plane as I have read so far.

The ability to pull off shadowing and the terrain mapping are the two biggest obstacles in this line of thinking.

So, it kinda doesn't work.

[gkurey]

I can tell you that when flying formation in the dark, if the moon isn't out, with no lights, another jet can be within 10 feet and you won't see it; Nevermind the fact that airliners have poor visibility all around except forward. Flying in a close trail wouldn't be tough at all. Lots of professional aviators do it all the time over long distances.