Wow. Why is this thread still alive?!

[ThatOneEuroE30]

I wish stuff like that hapend here schools so boring... Although one day some kid put mercury in the water system so we got out early that was cool..

[einhander]

For the record, I had bomb threats when I was in highschool.. Never was I subjected to such treatment, and yet I am still here breathing.

Well, maybe there were fewer school shootings and what not back then.

If the cops came in, didn't search everyone, then some fucker blew everything up you'd be upset in reverse.

Entirely justified and entirely reasonable.

[Rodoni]

uhhh you give up a lot of your rights on school property. They can search your locker for no reason at all... it's their property and not yours.

I'm sure you'd be just as pissed off if the cops didn't search the kids and one kid in your brother-in-law's classroom started shooting everyone...

[matthugie]

if the cops came in, didn't search everyone, then some fucker blew everything up you'd be upset in reverse.

Entirely justified and entirely reasonable.

+1

[TurboJake]

I only have one thing that popped into my head.

I was in 9th grade, in Civil Liberties class. As class is about to get underway, he came up to me and said "Jake, if I ask you a question in the next 5 minutes, can I count on you to refuse?"

"I know you have to ask, yes. But it's a pretty obvious answer".

He walks away, the class starts filling up. About 5 minutes passes and he approaches me, saying "Mr Lundin. Can I search your bag?"

"Nope" I say.

So he gets a little louder. "Mr. Lundin, I have to search your bag, please give it to me".
"Yeah no, not gonna happen..."

Some people are looking, probably half the class.

Then, VERY sternly and VERY loudly, he says "JACOB! This is your last chance, I NEED to look in your backpack. Give it to me now!!"

I lean back, kick my feet up, put my hands behind my head and say "Whatever Mr. Ray, Go fuck yourself..."

Everyone is just completely flabbergasted. "Holy shit" I hear as a whisper in the background. Hints of "Did he just do that?!" and "No way. that just happened?". Like a crowd in disbelief whispering to each other.

Teacher give me a wink and a smile. Turn around and says "Class, this is the perfect example of what you should do if anyone asks to look in your bag. They have no right, WE have no legal ability, and you should NOT give up your rights just because we're louder and "Superior". Teacher or law enforcement personnel. They need proof. I would recommend saying "That would be unlawful search and seizure, so I politely ASK you to go fuck yourself." but the point is still made. Can anyone tell me what constitutional amendment that would be"

I blurt out without thinking in an extremely cocky manner, "The fourth.".


After the class, people said I should go into acting because I was so convincing. Made me giggle. I'm in high school, that's all I'm doing already.....


My point, In my school they taught that getting your bag searched was against your rights. You can refuse. And some teachers are still pretty awesome. He still teaches there.

/Storytime.

[cale]

To summarize, a teacher taught a bunch of 13/14 year olds it's intelligent to reply "go fuck yourself" to cops. Yea, sounds smart.

[mr.vang]

You guys are too sensitive. Its not like they grab him by the nut sack or stick stuff up his ahole. Like another member had mentioned, better safe than sorry.

[BraveUlysses]

To summarize, a teacher taught a bunch of 13/14 year olds it's intelligent to reply "go fuck yourself" to cops. Yea, sounds smart.

I'll take 'shit that didn't happen' for 500, alex.

[gtdragon980]

I think if the person who called in the threat may have said a bomb was on a person, they would have the right to search everyone. However, charging them for having weed or paraphernalia shouldn't be considered. They were being searched on grounds for a bomb threat. Not for that shit.

Now I understand law says consent to search means anything they find is legal to submit, but come on, they were there for a much more serious reason than weed.

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[Vedubin01]

once again public school, you have very little rights when you step on property.



What happened to the days when a bomb threat was called in and everyone had to go to the parking lot or track and wait to hear the fire alarm to come back in?

[cale]

I think if the person who called in the threat may have said a bomb was on a person, they would have the right to search everyone. However, charging them for having weed or paraphernalia shouldn't be considered. They were being searched on grounds for a bomb threat. Not for that shit.

Now I understand law says consent to search means anything they find is legal to submit, but come on, they were there for a much more serious reason than weed.

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So you bend the law based on the seriousness of the situation? some cops may, by no means are they obligated to and likely wouldn't considering it's at a school.

[gtdragon980]

So you bend the law based on the seriousness of the situation? some cops may, by no means are they obligated to and likely wouldn't considering it's at a school.

True I agree, but in a situation where lives are in danger, is it really necessary to waste time charging some kid with weed? Cops bend laws all the time. It just sounds like they went for a bomb, false alarm, might as well take this kid in because he's a pothead. Should have just called his parents and sent his ass home.

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[StinkE30]

For the most part, those under 18 don't have rights.

[ParsedOut]

For the most part, those under 18 don't have rights.

Bullshit. If my kid even got patted down in that situation you better believe hell would rise. They have the rights their legal guardians allow them, if I say it's ok to search him, then it's ok. If I tell him to shut his pie hole, he should do it. If come into his room and search his stuff, I can do it. NO ONE ELSE can do that without my permission.

Back to the original story, this is just another example of baby steps and conditioning for a police state. We slowly chip away at our constitutional rights in "seems reasonable" or "for the greater good" chunks and we end up like the Nazi's. Most people roll their eyes when you throw a parallel out there like that, but it's absolute fact that's what happened to those people, right beneath their noses. It can happen here, it'll just take longer. If we continue to condition our younger generations that it's "cool" to give up their rights our country as we know it is done for.

/end rant

Waiting for einhandler to jump in with a snide one liner...wait for it.

[mitchlikesbikes]

who gives a flying fuck? if you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't be concerned about being searched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4