Who agrees with Obama bringing in Muslim refugees?

[Wschnitz]

I wouldnt call supporting them with arms and money for cheap oil "trouble" with IS.

[BraveUlysses]

then why do they not police themselves...................... Why is there Nyerere a peep out of the moderate and peaceful followers when shit like this happens

I'm confused by these types of complaints, who exactly are you looking for condemnation from the 1+ billion followers of islam? a particular person? tens of thousands of tweets with a certain hashtag? the president of cair to make a statement?

[e30 brick]

^^^ to the quote above. It's not like the extremists have a sign on them saying they are an extremist...some folks here need to really educate themselves about Islam before making comments. ISIS are a bunch of maniac extremist who brain wash their followers into thinking Islam is as it is preached by those fucking bearded assholes from ISIS or Al Qaeda. The stupid foot soldiers of ISIS and Al Qaeda are ignorant of the religion, come from impoverished Backgrounds and are easily influenced. To put all of a religion or a people in one catagory is discriminatory and defies common sense.

All I'm saying is open your mind and educate yourself first as to what the history of the region is, why are there countries in the region now that weren't there 60 or so years ago. Who made those countries, how were the leaders or kings (for example the Saudis) placed as the leaders and by whom? Or, how did Al Qaeda come to be that then set off all these other extremist groups.

Once you know the above then you will know why there is unrest, and why these extremist exist.

[kickinindian]

Truth so many people need to see the history the west has of fucking with the region.

But I still feel we are being to soft and half assed, if we're gonna destroy IS then just go in quick and hard then get out this prolonged bombing is not gonna work

[mrsleeve]

Are we forgetting the history this region has with fucking with the west as well......

[e30 brick]

The west created the problem... now we want turn our back and point fingers. I agree with KICKININDIAN, fuck ISIS. We should go in deep and hard. Give them an ads kicking and send then straight to hell.

[e30 brick]

Islam is not the problem, it's the warlords and leaders we put in power and arm them.

[Wschnitz]

Are we forgetting the history this region has with fucking with the west as well......

Yeah all those muslims were asking for it in 1095 by taking the holy lands in 632... /s

Dont point fingers and say he did it first when its been a back and forth fuckery by all religions.

The solution is to not allow them to play into politics and foreign policy at all, but some people have trouble with that totally sane idea.

[TimKninja]

^^ After watching 5 minutes of this you might change your mind...



With that said I think I can agree ((IF)) it was only women and children as women and children are the battered victims the one's that are raped and belittled, but around 75 percent were males that Obama brought over who's beliefs go against the American government..

I think on the OP comment of Carson statement was that the thousands had infiltrated jihadist within the groups he wasn't speaking for all.. Thus why I think it should have been women and children

Correct me if am wrong but if it was the U.S at war with China and China was winning crucial territory those territories were destroyed and China kindly said lets bring in 10,000 American refugees and give them home as they lost theirs during this war. Will that stop Americans from being Americans? NO

Just watched that entire video. I've learned alot from this thread.

After watching that video I have to say I'm not fond at all of whats going on at all with this Muslim Immigration. These immigrants come in, set up colonies. Parts of city's non-Muslims cant walk through without getting harassed. Its happening all over Europe. Women being raped at an astounding rate. So bad they have to change their appearance and walk in groups to be safe., citys that were once peaceful being bombed. How can you call this a religion of peace ? I understand MOST of them are good people. But why is there so so many Radicals? Why do they set up huge colonies and separate themselves from the rest of society and try to implicate their own laws? That's FUCKED any way you look at it.

I don't want a part of town I can't walk through without being harassed for not being a Muslim. In today's society that makes me a racist right? You cant tell me that if I said "No , I don't want Muslim colonies in my city" I wouldn't be considered a racist. Fuck that, call me what you want. That's why Europe is having this huge issue. I want nothing to do with it.

[Wschnitz]

It is a Religion of peace.

The Rise of Islamic Fundamentalism is your answer to why there are so many radicals.

Which could possibly be attributed to fucking up the middle east over wars started -put your tinfoil hat on here- to fund various government officials pockets. -tinfoil hat off now-

They see their countries falling apart, people killing each other, and now rally behind the idea of a new age Islamic caliphate.

This situation is not very different from extremist christians in my opinion, they dont go and suicide bomb in a crowd of people, but ive seen plenty of lives ruined because people dont fit their agenda of a straight god fearing human.

[mrsleeve]

Yeah all those muslims were asking for it in 1095 by taking the holy lands in 632... /s

Dont point fingers and say he did it first when its been a back and forth fuckery by all religions.

The solution is to not allow them to play into politics and foreign policy at all, but some people have trouble with that totally sane idea.

yes it goes back WAY BACK, to even before the 1st crusade, are we forgetting the Moor's invasion of the Iberian Peninsula in what was it the 75X's, and included parts of modern day France. Where they established the Caliphate of Cordoba (kinda like ISIS is trying to do now) Well that is until Charlemagne pushed them back into N Africa........


The problem with keeping then out of politics and what not, is you cant do that in modern equality based free societies..... Next you have the issue with mass immigration of a people with a proclivity for prolific breeding, Vs the modern western social norms of have far fewer offspring. In a few short generations you have a voting majority...........

[sgtskid]

An interesting read.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-kuttner/a-grand-bargain-with-putin-against-isis_b_8570252.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

[Fusion]

It is a Religion of peace.

The Rise of Islamic Fundamentalism is your answer to why there are so many radicals.

Which could possibly be attributed to fucking up the middle east over wars started -put your tinfoil hat on here- to fund various government officials pockets. -tinfoil hat off now-

They see their countries falling apart, people killing each other, and now rally behind the idea of a new age Islamic caliphate.

This situation is not very different from extremist christians in my opinion, they dont go and suicide bomb in a crowd of people, but ive seen plenty of lives ruined because people dont fit their agenda of a straight god fearing human.

I fully agree with this. The more it happens, the clearer it is that these conflicts will not come to an end in a world where people willingly demean themselves, believe, serve, speak for, and try to spread any religion.
History has shown over and over again that religion not only ruins peoples lives, religion is capable of shunning science, erasing knowledge, bashing intellect. Just about every religion is used to spread hate, more specifically to create a false argument to justify hate against anything the closed-minded individual has been taught to hate since they were a child. Almost every religion has committed mass killings, ruined nations, killed, raped, psychologically and physically used children.
I think society is grown up enough to do away with that fictitious bullshit.

[goarmy]

This thread really is an ongoing topic.

so far as of today 31 states oppose this..





Some how I do feel strongly we should at least help after goggling Syria/pics and seeing all these things happening.. I was thinking about this and well if I was in that situation I would be thinking. Just not human to do nothing and it might make us look bad being such a great nation..

[Wschnitz]

Pretty hilarious those state governments don't know how it works, what are they gonna do, block their borders? Lol.

I think a greater push for integration needs to be made so we don't suffer the issues Europe is suffering. In Washington there are many different cultures and groups, without much of a culture clash, The same can happen with proper planning and time with these refugees, which honestly have no where to go. They cant farm because the middle east is fucked by climate change, and they cant go to the cities cause they are bombed to fuck.