Am I the only person who likes Bernie?

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  • lambo
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    CNN is live streaming the Democratic debate right now for anyone unaware

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  • Wschnitz
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    Originally posted by Dozyproductions
    Isn't Bernie claiming that his plans use money that's already there, just wasted on other things or not properly collected in the first place (taxes)? I wouldn't mind the military to stop losing count of our money for one

    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articl...-Massive-Waste.

    Remember when Rumsfeld told us on 9/10/2001 that 2.3 trillion just vanished? The next day took care of that memory.
    Yeah bernie stated that the 18 trillion number was taken out of context, and a couple sourced economists state he could actually gain money out of the plan.

    This all assumes the house and senate would work with him and not be the big dick measuring contest on who gets more bribe money.

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  • Dozyproductions
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    Isn't Bernie claiming that his plans use money that's already there, just wasted on other things or not properly collected in the first place (taxes)? I wouldn't mind the military to stop losing count of our money for one

    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articl...-Massive-Waste.

    Remember when Rumsfeld told us on 9/10/2001 that 2.3 trillion just vanished? The next day took care of that memory.

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  • BraveUlysses
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    Originally posted by Wschnitz
    All these fancy names for our shitposts
    Sleeve is required to prove he's the dumbest person in the room at any given moment.

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  • Wschnitz
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    All these fancy names for our shitposts

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  • mrsleeve
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    Originally posted by BraveUlysses
    I like how you treat the word as if it's a slur. Another good sleevepost
    Kinda how you use "Christian", "Religious", and "Conservative" amirite

    an exceptional bravepost

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  • marshallnoise
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    In for lulz.

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  • Wschnitz
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    Originally posted by Nick_S
    I don't have TV service and really hesistate to take anything on the internet at face value...but he seems to be one of the few candidates who actually has the american public's best interest in mind. He'll likely get my vote.
    See im the opposite, I dont take anything at face value without reading some publish documents with sources first, but TV is awful dude. They do more name calling then talking about facts.

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  • Nick_S
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    I don't have TV service and really hesistate to take anything on the internet at face value...but he seems to be one of the few candidates who actually has the american public's best interest in mind. He'll likely get my vote.

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  • Wschnitz
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    Originally posted by nando
    I don't think the economics of isolation work out the way people think they do.
    I wouldn't say NAFTA has been the economic dream either.

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  • nando
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    I don't think the economics of isolation work out the way people think they do.

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  • Wschnitz
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    Originally posted by nando
    It's not really the taxes. It's the trade agreements and things like nationwide $15 an hour minimum wage. We should let that play out where it's being tried, and implement it if it turns out to be successful.
    So your one of the few people that like NAFTA and TTP? Or am I lost.

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  • nando
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    It's not really the taxes. It's the trade agreements and things like nationwide $15 an hour minimum wage. We should let that play out where it's being tried, and implement it if it turns out to be successful.

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  • Wschnitz
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    Originally posted by nando
    I think Joe would have my vote if he ran, he's got the honesty of Trump/Bernie without the kookiness.


    I really dont think Bernie is that out there, and the economic thing can go both ways, I think people get caught up in the world is ending cause my tax rate went up 11%, while forgetting they now have affordable care, unemployment benefits, free college, and so on. I think the way it is makes everyone appear selfish, "why should i be paying for that poor persons food, or why should i be paying for their college, what have they done for me?" Type arguments.

    I have no problem paying more taxes if there are more opportunities, better health care, etc for people. I dont think anyone should be living day to day on $7.58 an hour feeding 3 kids and getting constantly sick because they cant afford their own care.

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  • nando
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    I'm not really too sure about Bernie. At least he's not afraid to say what he really believes, but I don't really agree with everything he says - he's definitely more liberal than me on economics.

    He's like a lefty version of Trump (maybe a bit nicer). The appeal of both of them is similar in a lot of ways - the zero fucks given towards the establishment, mostly. I hate to say it, but I'd vote for Trump before any of the other GOP candidates. They're all awfully horrid.

    I think Joe would have my vote if he ran, he's got the honesty of Trump/Bernie without the kookiness. Hillary, not really too sure about that one either.. I mean, we'd get Bill as the first man (lady?), and he'd kinda balance the swagger with Putin a bit, but otherwise.. ehh.

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