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  • nando
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    hey, 1%'s don't have to worry about laws. They worked hard enough to earn their money, laundering & evading taxes is their right. Stop being so poor!

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  • BraveUlysses
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    Originally posted by Dozyproductions
    Controlled "leaks"; an old style of geopolitical warfare. Nothing new and something I'd expect is out of the the DoD and CIA play books.

    Want to ruin a person's political career? Want another reason to invade a non threatening sovereign nation? Leak something.

    Just something to add from the conspiratorial peanut gallery ;)
    So this leak is being done by the CIA/DoD to...invade Panama?

    Originally posted by gwb72tii
    Kershaw, seriously, why do you think more government in your life is going to improve things when more government in our lives for the past 50+ years has been the reason everything is so fucked up.
    your socialist president obama jacked up tax rates, the rich are richer, federal tax receipts are at a record, and the government is still running a huge deficit every year.
    the progressive liberal socialists have pretty much gotten their wishes forever and we find ourselves in a fucked up mess, and you want more?
    you believe all of this and yet you're still here, white knighting for the 1%. good job on being a temporarily embarrassed millionaire for all of your life.

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  • Dozyproductions
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    Controlled "leaks"; an old style of geopolitical warfare. Nothing new and something I'd expect is out of the the DoD and CIA play books.

    Want to ruin a person's political career? Want another reason to invade a non threatening sovereign nation? Leak something.

    Just something to add from the conspiratorial peanut gallery ;)

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  • 2761377
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    Originally posted by Kershaw
    No, not really. You expected something different? I think it's pretty much assumed because of the revolving door between big business and the government. It's called cronyism, nepotism, corruption, etc. That's why I am not a fan of, for example, deregulation and loosening tax laws. The people passing them are passing them for their buddies at the expense of the general population and the environment. In fact, the Republican party actually prides themselves on doing just that.
    as should be obvious from the current election cycle, both major political parties are a part of the oligarchy that rules this country. two side of the same coin, if you will.

    the fact that the GOP is apparently willing to throw the election to prevent Trump is proof enough to me the Republican party is corrupt. and then there is this-



    individuals may actually have different politics; the parties do not. the goal of both party establishments is to enrich the 1%

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  • marshallnoise
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    Wow man. He is a leftist through and through. Hyperbole much?

    Sent from my Z958 using Tapatalk

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  • Wschnitz
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    Lmao if you think the O man is anywhere near being progressive or socialist you are blind.

    Dudes a hard core conservative by European standards.

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  • gwb72tii
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    Kershaw, seriously, why do you think more government in your life is going to improve things when more government in our lives for the past 50+ years has been the reason everything is so fucked up.
    your socialist president obama jacked up tax rates, the rich are richer, federal tax receipts are at a record, and the government is still running a huge deficit every year.
    the progressive liberal socialists have pretty much gotten their wishes forever and we find ourselves in a fucked up mess, and you want more?

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  • Kershaw
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    If the regulations are so helpful to businesses, why are lobbyists constantly pushing for further deregulation?

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  • marshallnoise
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    Originally posted by Kershaw
    No, not really. You expected something different? I think it's pretty much assumed because of the revolving door between big business and the government. It's called cronyism, nepotism, corruption, etc. That's why I am not a fan of, for example, deregulation and loosening tax laws. The people passing them are passing them for their buddies at the expense of the general population and the environment. In fact, the Republican party actually prides themselves on doing just that.
    The "logic" here is really amazing.

    You acknowledge that the government is in bed with business, passing laws for the benefit of each other at the determent of whoever.

    But you support regulation by the government and tighter tax laws because...fuck business.



    You are supporting the strengthening of the relationship between government and business when you empower the government to tax more and regulate.

    When is it when you liberals out there will figure out that the government (no matter who runs it) doesn't give any more fucks about you than businesses?

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  • BraveUlysses
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    Originally posted by gwb72tii
    so let me ask a question.
    why do you feel the rich taking their wealth offshore and away from US tax rates is immoral? Why, in your collective opinions, should anyone be forced to maximize their tax liabilities?

    ANd a follow on question. Why do you believe that passing additional taxes from the wealthy through the maze of the federal government, to be distributed according to the whims of the politicians you despise, why is that a better solution than allowing the rich to invest where they might maximize their investment returns?

    ps. isn't interesting that politicians are a large % of those sheltering their wealth?
    Well you seem to keep missing the point, but it's not just evasion of taxes. Hiding and moving the money in this manner is done because people are hiding this money for a few possible reasons: bribery or because the money is dirty or because they're hiding a money trail to terrorism or drug trade other questionable sources.

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  • Kershaw
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    Originally posted by gwb72tii
    ps. isn't interesting that politicians are a large % of those sheltering their wealth?
    No, not really. You expected something different? I think it's pretty much assumed because of the revolving door between big business and the government. It's called cronyism, nepotism, corruption, etc. That's why I am not a fan of, for example, deregulation and loosening tax laws. The people passing them are passing them for their buddies at the expense of the general population and the environment. In fact, the Republican party actually prides themselves on doing just that.

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  • mjimport
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    Render to Caesar what is Caesar's...

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  • Wschnitz
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    You want to enjoy the US? Then you pay your due taxes here, no avoiding it. If you want lower tax rates go somewhere else.

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  • gwb72tii
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    so let me ask a question.
    why do you feel the rich taking their wealth offshore and away from US tax rates is immoral? Why, in your collective opinions, should anyone be forced to maximize their tax liabilities?

    ANd a follow on question. Why do you believe that passing additional taxes from the wealthy through the maze of the federal government, to be distributed according to the whims of the politicians you despise, why is that a better solution than allowing the rich to invest where they might maximize their investment returns?

    ps. isn't interesting that politicians are a large % of those sheltering their wealth?

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  • BobombETA
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    Iceland PM resigning over this.

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