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Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
2. The assumption that small arms possessed by the US population would be an effective deterrent against the most powerful military in the world.
If the "government" wanted to impose true tyranny, martial law, whatever you want to call it, they wouldn't come with some half-assed 4% of the military, they would come with the majority of it. And it would be easy to crush whatever resistance, and the rest would fall in line.
Or they would never do it, and the point of the 2A is moot. Hence my earlier point about circular logic.
Indeed, only in recent months have we seen the brutal suppression of the Chinese student demonstrations in Tiananmen Square. It should not surprise us that some NRA sympathizers have presented that situation as an abject lesson to those who unthinkingly support the prohibition of private gun ownership. "[I]f all Chinese citizens kept arms, their rulers would hardly have dared to massacre the demonstrators... The private keeping of hand-held personal firearms is within the constitutional design for a counter to government run amok... As the Tianamen Square tragedy showed so graphically, AK 47's fall into that category of weapons, and that is why they are protected by the Second Amendment." 95 It is simply silly to respond that small arms are irrelevant against nuclear armed states; Witness contemporary Northern Ireland and the territories occupied by Israel, where the sophisticated weaponry of Great Britain and Israel have proved almost totally beside the point. The fact that these may not be pleasant examples does not affect the principal point, that a state facing a totally disarmed population is in a far better position, for good or ill, to suppress popular demonstrations and uprisings than one that must calculate the possibilities of its soldiers and officials being injured or killed.
Sanford Levinson
University of Texas at Austin School of Law
Reprinted from the Yale Law Journal, Volume 99, pp. 637-659
Entire article here (worth reading even if the NRA won't like some of his conclusions):
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Originally posted by JinormusJDon't buy an e30
They're stupid
1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.
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Interesting how this thread turned into another gun thread. Oh well. This is Murica.
But more on the subject is the dissolution of the Trump Foundation. ;-)
Can't wait to hear Trumpsters on this subject. ;-)
New York attorney general says charity functioned ‘as little more than a checkbook to serve Trump’s business and political interests’
Trump Foundation to shut down after lawsuit exposes ‘pattern of illegality’. New York attorney general says charity functioned ‘as little more than a checkbook to serve Trump’s business and political interests’
The attorney general had claimed the charity was used as a “piggy bank” to boost Trump Sr’s 2016 presidential campaign, violating rules that bar not-for-profit groups from engaging in certain types of political activity.
The suit claimed that up to $3m in such funds boosted Trump’s campaign. Among examples of improperly used funds is the allegation that the charity spent $10,000 on a giant painting of Trump himself.Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.
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past:
1989 325is (learner shitbox)
1986 325e (turbo dorito)
1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
1985 323i baur
current:
1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)
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probably has something to do with how drumpf deployed a brigade-sized element of troops, during the holiday season, as a media show-of-farce.
i honestly wish he'd stuck it out, because he was a stabilizing influence in the current regime, but i get why he didn't.past:
1989 325is (learner shitbox)
1986 325e (turbo dorito)
1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
1985 323i baur
current:
1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)
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Originally posted by decay View Postprobably has something to do with how drumpf deployed a brigade-sized element of troops, during the holiday season, as a media show-of-farce.
i honestly wish he'd stuck it out, because he was a stabilizing influence in the current regime, but i get why he didn't.
Interesting how you two left wingers now argue, in essence, for unending war.“There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
Sir Winston Churchill
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Originally posted by gwb72tii View PostIt’s not our fight.
Interesting how you two left wingers now argue, in essence, for unending war.
Also, if we stop them there they don't come here, also, we are keeping Iran out & stopping them from helping Hezbollah, also, also, also, we guaranteed the Kurds we would not do this.
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