Trump Thread 2.0

[MrBurgundy]

There you go, good example of very Sloppy. You don't even read. Plus you have a total non-sequitur.

Were you responding to me(?) Because I'm clearly saying that while Trump does perform acts of Fascism, it's not accurate to call him a Fascist. He's an Authoritarian. It's a nuanced point of view. And If you read or listened to the link I posted, the "Tear-gassing protestors" refers to the events in Lafayette Square in DC, which has nothing to do with your Portland youtube "rebuttal."



For someone who name calls others "bots" you sure respond like an automaton.

No that wasn't directed at you, I'm talking about Portland and people claiming that to be peaceful then met with force.

Everyone here except the obvious few are calling him a facist, so no, that comment wan't exclusive to you.

You've already posted that article by the way and I read it the first time.

[phillipj]

Lol 😂 a bunch of white dudes saying my worldview is narrow, suggesting I support white supremacy and claiming to not respond to me because of those things is absolutely hilarious.

Truely hilarious

Once again, your ego is too large to challenge your beliefs with facts.

I can only speak for myself, but I certainly do not think you are a white supremacist! Maybe others are assuming you are because they can't see you and you seem to continually apologize for Trump, who, besides being clearly inept, corrupt and a moron, undeniably dog-whistles fascism and racism.

Hey, from the very beginning I just said it bugged me that you so completely deny systemic racism / discrimination in regards to the black population. It doesn't exist everywhere all the time, but it does sure happen. Sure, things in this country are far better than during Slavery, Reconstruction, or even the 1960's, or 80's, but let's please not deem things 100% fair and equitable in all parts of this country. The recent rights protests are for Very Real and Important reasons. Things will never be perfect, but we need to call out injustice when we see it and work toward something better.

[MrBurgundy]

Well, I didn't want to have THIS conversation, but here we go. You implying that you can't think this or that way because you aren't white is absolutely racism in itself. My grandfather, who is clearly Mexican, is SUPER racist. Just because you're not white or that you are originally from somewhere else doesn't mean you have any less of a chance of having a narrow worldview.

That's exactly what that means

I've lived for months at a time in a country that is a polar opposite of here

I've traveled to placed that interest me and experience them firsthand

But I'm called narrow because I don't share the same views as people arguing against me is sad.

[phillipj]

https://youtu.be/EJSiV_R2uiI

“Tear gassing peaceful protestor”

bots.

Beep boop tv tell me trump is fascist boop grrrrr brrrrr beep beep

There you go, good example of very Sloppy. You don't even read. Plus you have a total non-sequitur.

Were you responding to me(?) Because I'm clearly saying that while Trump does perform acts of Fascism, it's not accurate to call him a Fascist. He's an Authoritarian. It's a nuanced point of view. And If you read or listened to the link I posted, the "Tear-gassing protestors" refers to the events in Lafayette Square in DC, which has nothing to do with your Portland youtube "rebuttal."



For someone who name calls others "bots" you sure respond like an automaton.

[supermansocks95]

Lol 😂 a bunch of white dudes saying my worldview is narrow, suggesting I support white supremacy and claiming to not respond to me because of those things is absolutely hilarious.

Truely hilarious

Once again, your ego is too large to challenge your beliefs with facts.

Well, I didn't want to have THIS conversation, but here we go. You implying that you can't think this or that way because you aren't white is absolutely racism in itself. My grandfather, who is clearly Mexican, is SUPER racist. Just because you're not white or that you are originally from somewhere else doesn't mean you have any less of a chance of having a narrow worldview.

[MrBurgundy]

but wait, phillip, your opinion is bad because bots! you're all bots!!!!1

I always responded to Philip with data and stats so his opinion did\does matter.

You're just in here running your mouth without posting one comment with any substance.

I honestly respect that Philip will hash it out with me, but you're like.. I don't really know.

And to note Philip is the only person here that will do that.

Cheers to that.

[MrBurgundy]

Some people might be silent with you precisely because they think that your worldview is narrow based on your posts here. I definitely put myself in that category. You're pretty sloppy, you often brazenly lie, and you time after time cherry pick history to fit your agenda.

No one, not one person at all, contended that CHAZ / CHOP didn't become a complete mess, that's why you heard nothing. It was widely reported on all sides that it was a mess by the time you visited the day of clear out. The situation there was always way more nuanced than the way you presented it to fit your politics in this thread.

Lol 😂 a bunch of white dudes saying my worldview is narrow, suggesting I support white supremacy and claiming to not respond to me because of those things is absolutely hilarious.

Truely hilarious

Once again, your ego is too large to challenge your beliefs with facts.

[kronus]

but wait, phillip, your opinion is bad because bots! you're all bots!!!!1

[phillipj]

Narrow?

More assumptions.

You sound like a bot too.

Such a bot that I'm being called narrow.

When I was talking shit on Chaz I actually went there and found out for myself, or as much as I could. Came back here and let everyone know that it was indeed a shithole everyone was silent. When I get back from Portland next week, I'm sure everyone will be silent when I confirm its a violent shit show in front of the courthouse.

Why don't you stop running your mouth. You're coming off as an idiot, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe taking the initiative to experience things firsthand is narrow? IDK...

Some people might be silent with you precisely because they think that your worldview is narrow based on your posts here. I definitely put myself in that category. You're pretty sloppy, you often brazenly lie, and you time after time cherry pick history to fit your agenda.

No one, not one person at all, contended that CHAZ / CHOP didn't become a complete mess, that's why you heard nothing. It was widely reported on all sides that it was a mess by the time you visited the day of clear out. The situation there was always way more nuanced than the way you presented it to fit your politics in this thread.

[MrBurgundy]

https://youtu.be/EJSiV_R2uiI

“Tear gassing peaceful protestor”

bots.

Beep boop tv tell me trump is fascist boop grrrrr brrrrr beep beep

[phillipj]

Trump is performing Fascism. He has especially notable examples in the last few weeks, and he connects strongly to Fascist lineage, but calling Trump a true Fascist is restrictive and not very accurate because we don't have a Fascist state. It's more accurate to say Trump is an Authoritarian. An inept, bumbling Authoritarian.

Trump has been testing what he can get away with from the very beginning, whether it is in the extreme things he says or by his actions. Many scary or borderline scary. Now, we are nowhere near a Fascist regime but the pandemic and the stark division in the country provides a better avenue toward something like a dictatorship.

And it's very important to remember it is not just Trump, it's the people he brings around him. They bring great damage to Democracy. Let's not forget Stone and Manafort worked for actual dictators Mobutu and Marcos (and others!) before they worked for Trump. Bannon brought Trump to power and is a Fascism apologist. Stephen Miller is an Extremest and has been Trump's senior policy advisor since day one, which is enormously alarming.

[MrBurgundy]

we're just reading your posts here, bud. I don't really give a shit what kind of boy you are, your worldview is hopelessly narrow.

Narrow?

More assumptions.

You sound like a bot too.

Such a bot that I'm being called narrow.

When I was talking shit on Chaz I actually went there and found out for myself, or as much as I could. Came back here and let everyone know that it was indeed a shithole everyone was silent. When I get back from Portland next week, I'm sure everyone will be silent when I confirm its a violent shit show in front of the courthouse.

Why don't you stop running your mouth. You're coming off as an idiot, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe taking the initiative to experience things firsthand is narrow? IDK...

[kronus]

I literally can't believe you're telling me, an arab muslim boy, looks up to a white supremacist.

we're just reading your posts here, bud. I don't really give a shit what kind of boy you are, your worldview is hopelessly narrow.

[supermansocks95]

https://www.ajc.com/news/police-iden...ENHMCUHN6ZTLY/

These are the actual kinds of people that want to burn shit (the same kind of people marshall and burgundy look up to, apparently). I have never supported people looting or damaging private or federal property, and have said so multiple times. They are a small minority of the protests that are happening, and it's funny when it turns out a lot of them are actually alt-right goons just trying to stir up shit.

I had a manager at a place I worked at in college(SE Kansas) that said he rolled with the Hell's Angels. I was the only non-white-looking person there, but I had a good work ethic and was happy to do what they asked. Guy fucking hated me. He did a couple things to me that I didn't realize until years later could've gotten him into a bit of legal trouble. He also told a place I was trying to get hired at that I slept on the job so I wouldn't get hired. This was like 2 years after I worked there.

[MrBurgundy]

https://www.ajc.com/news/police-iden...ENHMCUHN6ZTLY/

These are the actual kinds of people that want to burn shit (the same kind of people marshall and burgundy look up to, apparently). I have never supported people looting or damaging private or federal property, and have said so multiple times. They are a small minority of the protests that are happening, and it's funny when it turns out a lot of them are actually alt-right goons just trying to stir up shit.

sigh..

more assumptions..

I literally can't believe you're telling me, an arab muslim boy, looks up to a white supremacist.

just wow...

and i'm going to go out on a limb and say a white guy is telling me that.. lol