Trump Thread 2.0

[2mAn]

I thought D-J-T was an informant?

[MrBurgundy]

"it's a hox"

1000s of pages released

allegedly kills himself over a "hoax"

Hmmmm I wonder why trump wants us to not talk about it anymore.......


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[kronus]

direct from the epstein estate.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/epstein-birthday-book-congress-9d79ab34?st=s6sRCC&reflink=desktopwebshare_permali nk

[z31maniac]

Dude, thank you for the wish of luck. But don't be so doom and gloom, there are still so many people who care so very deeply on both sides of the political spectrum.

Trying to making DC a shining city is just an ego stroke for POTUS. I detoured through downtown DC yesterday just to take a look on my way back from the airport, and it was business as usual except for a lower number of homeless visible.

Troops in the capital isn't new, but using them as fake cops is a new low.

I think support for DT is waning, and the very people who need him to do their bad deeds don't trust him at all.

We shall see, but we're not abandoning ship yet, even if it is tempting.

The R's are going along with it all because their "small government, freedom, free speech" has always been bullshit. They want authoritarian rule. That's why they are all for what's going on.

[82eye]

Dude, thank you for the wish of luck. But don't be so doom and gloom, there are still so many people who care so very deeply on both sides of the political spectrum.

i'm honestly just repeating what is already a widely held belief that is openly discussed in our media. i'm not sure if the same discussions are bubbling to the surface in the US.

Trying to making DC a shining city is just an ego stroke for POTUS. I detoured through downtown DC yesterday just to take a look on my way back from the airport, and it was business as usual except for a lower number of homeless visible.

Troops in the capital isn't new, but using them as fake cops is a new low.

perhaps i'd believe that save for the fact trump is not ordering the troops back and they continue to maintain a presence in every american center he has deployed them. if rhetoric and troop levels increase or they move into other blue centers before mid-terms and the general election you will have your answer.

I think support for DT is waning, and the very people who need him to do their bad deeds don't trust him at all.

which suggests a palace coup type of removal with someone emerging from within the inner circle to retain the reign. again, it's increasingly unlikely there will be anything of a meaningful vote deciding that outcome.

We shall see, but we're not abandoning ship yet, even if it is tempting.

that appears to anger your president more than anything.

[roguetoaster]

do you honestly feel voting will ever be an issue again? you can probably relax on having to fulfil that societal responsibility.

the view from outside the US is possibly different. it shows armed enforcement already deployed in the capital and moving increasingly into other blue state centers. it's widely expected elections will likely be declared null and void or suspended all together under a manufactured "crisis", or even a real crisis provoked by the armed enforcement itself.

i'm frankly skeptical any sort of real mid-term will be held, but even if a facade of a vote is mounted, can you really believe there will be any sort of election after that? dumping troops into DC is highly suggestive the president has plans of never leaving under any circumstance.

i'm not sure where you guys are headed, but we wish you luck.

Dude, thank you for the wish of luck. But don't be so doom and gloom, there are still so many people who care so very deeply on both sides of the political spectrum.

Trying to making DC a shining city is just an ego stroke for POTUS. I detoured through downtown DC yesterday just to take a look on my way back from the airport, and it was business as usual except for a lower number of homeless visible.

Troops in the capital isn't new, but using them as fake cops is a new low.

I think support for DT is waning, and the very people who need him to do their bad deeds don't trust him at all.

We shall see, but we're not abandoning ship yet, even if it is tempting.

[roguetoaster]

The way I see it, if you choose to not choose, then the choices will simply be made for you, and that's not cool. Your voice as a citizen matters.

Write in Blow Me for all I care, but vote, not just for President, but all the way to down. Keep psychos out of school boards, judicial seats, law enforcement.

Or in some states, register as a party your opposed to, and vote for inferior candidates to jam up their machine. Whatever works for you, but action>inaction.

If nothing else, researching who may be representing you, or making decisions that impact you may be illuminating, and you may begin to see some differences you didn't see before. You never know, that nobody you're voting for for a nothing office may one day be presidential material.

[82eye]

I'm saying that it's leading us to the same place, voting dem or rep.

do you honestly feel voting will ever be an issue again? you can probably relax on having to fulfil that societal responsibility.

the view from outside the US is possibly different. it shows armed enforcement already deployed in the capital and moving increasingly into other blue state centers. it's widely expected elections will likely be declared null and void or suspended all together under a manufactured "crisis", or even a real crisis provoked by the armed enforcement itself.

i'm frankly skeptical any sort of real mid-term will be held, but even if a facade of a vote is mounted, can you really believe there will be any sort of election after that? dumping troops into DC is highly suggestive the president has plans of never leaving under any circumstance.

i'm not sure where you guys are headed, but we wish you luck.

[MrBurgundy]

No, it's part of living as an adult. Choices are part of life. Participating in this system of government, which is flawed, is better than just checking out. Checking out is probably what the people in power really want so they can control you without even bothering to ask your consent.

You also don't have to pick one, in most places there are options beyond the two leading party candidates. If you don't like either of them vote for a third party or write in.

But to call the two leading parties the same is derisible.

I hear ya and I get where you're coming from. Choices are part of life and I chose not to participate? That is an adult choice. Not a lazy cop out, like some have suggested.

When I say its two sides of the same coin, I don't mean they're identical..

I'm saying that it's leading us to the same place, voting dem or rep.

I understand that there are other options.

Me not casting a vote doesn't mean Im checked out. I still care about this topic, I talk about it with my friends ect ect.

I believe the people we're presented with do not represent us so why would I cast a vote for them?

People in power are going to stay in power. Regardless if people who've "checked" vote or not.

If there is someone I believe in, I'll cast a vote for them. Didn't see that this time around and many other times, so I didn't vote for a president. Pretty straight forward. Casting a vote just for the sake of it is honestly worse than what some people here have suggested.

[roguetoaster]

That's a gay position.

"you should participate in our corrupt government voting charade or I don't respect you"

Low IQ

In the grand scheme- the long term, it's moving one way.

That's basically asking someone would they rather chop their balls off or dick off and the person responds "neither"

But then you go BUT YOU HAVE TO PICK ONE

No, it's part of living as an adult. Choices are part of life. Participating in this system of government, which is flawed, is better than just checking out. Checking out is probably what the people in power really want so they can control you without even bothering to ask your consent.

You also don't have to pick one, in most places there are options beyond the two leading party candidates. If you don't like either of them vote for a third party or write in.

But to call the two leading parties the same is derisible.

[MrBurgundy]

Both sides are obviously not the same and insisting on it is disingenuous. Its just a lazy way to not participate and feel smug about it. If you've only voted once then you're always looking for a reason to stay home and feel justified.

I have more respect for trump voters than 'both sides' abstainers.

That's a gay position.

"you should participate in our corrupt government voting charade or I don't respect you"

Low IQ

In the grand scheme- the long term, it's moving one way.

That's basically asking someone would they rather chop their balls off or dick off and the person responds "neither"

But then you go BUT YOU HAVE TO PICK ONE

[Victell]

Two sides same coin.
kamala or trump, same results. I’ve voted once in my life and realized…what’s the point….
Again, just the illusion of choice. It may lean this way or that way but it it’s one lane highway going only one place.
We are presented two shit options and according to what you said I have to pick one to have an opinion? Sorry bud, but hard pass.

Both sides are obviously not the same and insisting on it is disingeniuous. Its just a lazy way to not participate and feel smug about it. If you've only voted once then you're always looking for a reason to stay home and feel justified.

I have more respect for trump voters than 'both sides' abstainers.

[z31maniac]

Don't worry, the electorate is smart, they'll remember, and punish a party who has total control but wrecks shit. Right, right, right???

But for real, I don't know how national politics became like a student council candidate proposing pizza every day and getting in despite having no ability to control such a thing. Madness.

Can you imagine the rage tweets we are going to get if voters will flip the house and senate and not allow the Cheetoh to run rough shod over the constitution?

[roguetoaster]

And the Republicans are going along with it because they think they will win the midterms and be able to go even further.

Don't worry, the electorate is smart, they'll remember, and punish a party who has total control but wrecks shit. Right, right, right???

But for real, I don't know how national politics became like a student council candidate proposing pizza every day and getting in despite having no ability to control such a thing. Madness.

[z31maniac]

What?

Not even nearing the same thing. Trump lives for Trump Period.

You really think anyone else would be pulling the powergrab he has pulled? He has gutted the civil service solely to remove the levers that could oversee his moves & give him more power. The things he is doing are literally taken from How to make a democracy an Autocracy for Dummies.

The oversimplification of your post is insane to me, also, if you don't vote you have given up your right to complain.

The reason Trump won was nonvoters that disliked both & didn't care enough to get off their butts & do this simple thing.

And the Republicans are going along with it because they think they will win the midterms and be able to go even further.