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  • z31maniac
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    ^I'm with this guy.

    I don't see how attending a political rally, regardless of whom it is for, is comparable to harassing a politician, regardless of the letter behind their name.


    I'm getting really tired of this shit. I can't even watch some sports highlights now without hearing about politics in some way.

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  • coldweatherblue
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    Originally posted by Schnitzer318is
    Would you call the Trump rally attendees fascists?
    Are you equating attending a political rally with organizing a mob to confront a politician at a restaurant?

    If a group of trump supporters organized themselves across the country and routinely caused civil/criminal disruption targeted at democratic politicians then I would expect them to be charged and prosecuted to the full extent of the law and if they used scare tactics to attempt to forcibly change political events, then, yes, I would say that meets part of the definition of fascist tactics.

    BTW I agree that both parties are culpable and the extent to which logical fallacies and specious reasoning are employed by both sides is sickening.

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  • Schnitzer318is
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    Originally posted by coldweatherblue
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...anaugh-n912821

    This is antifa, right?

    Angry mob using forcible oppression and scare tactics attempting to strong-arm a democratically elected senator..

    That's like the definition of fascism.
    I'm not sure if go that far. It's deplorable yes, and the restaurant should have just called the cops to evict the protestors. But what they did was hardly brown-shirt or Gestapo tactics.

    Once again... This is the political atmosphere the two parties have fostered. Would you call the Trump rally attendees fascists? Our elected officials are going to have to get used to this sort of thing. Attack ads, super Pacs, scandals, lack of decorum and process, etc are contributing to this. It's a case of reap what sow on both sides of the aisle.

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  • coldweatherblue
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    If they just called themselves, "Fascists for America" or something it wouldn't be nearly as intriguing but the irony elevates it to a heretofore unseen level of idiocy.

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  • cale
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    Should thank them for their service.

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  • z31maniac
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    Originally posted by coldweatherblue
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...anaugh-n912821

    This is antifa, right?

    Angry mob using forcible oppression and scare tactics attempting to strong-arm a democratically elected senator..

    That's like the definition of fascism.

    How do people in this organization not understand this?

    Probably because they're paid to do this type of thing, which would constitute a criminal conspiracy. RICO?

    DERP DERP DERP, of course it's ok because REASONS!

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  • coldweatherblue
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    This is antifa, right?

    Angry mob using forcible oppression and scare tactics attempting to strong-arm a democratically elected senator..

    That's like the definition of fascism.

    How do people in this organization not understand this?

    Probably because they're paid to do this type of thing, which would constitute a criminal conspiracy. RICO?

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  • decay
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    Originally posted by z31maniac
    Wait, so since you had nothing about the story you brought up, you bring up a different story? You've heard the term "moving the goalposts," yes?
    ...he specifically asked for "what else". as in, "give me another example". it's moving the goalposts to say "ok, here you go"?

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  • z31maniac
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    Originally posted by decay
    i haven't been disproven as z31maniac claims, either. you're conveniently ignoring which side was geared up like they were ready for a riot, and which had a pear-shaped housewife on a microphone. ooh, anti-fascists are dangerous!

    as for "what else"- how about this?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ounter-protest
    Wait, so since you had nothing about the story you brought up, you bring up a different story? You've heard the term "moving the goalposts," yes?

    And this time you not only forego using a local source, AGAIN, you didn't even use one based in this country!


    And that COMPLETELY IGNORES your last defense of your position is "Oh you only believe the media when it fits your narrative" and then turn around and DO THE EXACT SAME THING!


    Social interaction difficulties, communication challenges, repetitive behavior...........I think you should speak to your PCP. They have effective treatments these days.

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  • cale
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    Originally posted by decay
    i haven't been disproven as z31maniac claims, either. you're conveniently ignoring which side was geared up like they were ready for a riot, and which had a pear-shaped housewife on a microphone. ooh, anti-fascists are dangerous!

    as for "what else"- how about this?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ounter-protest
    Since when do you get to share an anecdote, and then shift the burden of proof or in this case disproof, onto another person? Convenient argumentative technique, too bad a retard like me can't make sense of it.

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  • Ryan...
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    Originally posted by decay
    i haven't been disproven as z31maniac claims, either. you're conveniently ignoring which side was geared up like they were ready for a riot, and which had a pear-shaped housewife on a microphone. ooh, anti-fascists are dangerous!
    I'll ask this one again, before Antifa made it their business to violate the 1st amendment rights of those they disagree with, did any white nationalists show up to their rallies wearing their version of riot gear? Were they destroying property? Starting fights? Were they doing anything other than existing as their ignorant selves in public?

    Tell you what, as vile as white nationalism is, I almost preferred their stupid protests because they sat there out in the open with their faces exposed to the world, so we could literally put a face to their stupidity and ignorance if we so chose.

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  • Mediumrarechicken
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    Originally posted by decay
    i haven't been disproven as z31maniac claims, either. you're conveniently ignoring which side was geared up like they were ready for a riot, and which had a pear-shaped housewife on a microphone. ooh, anti-fascists are dangerous!

    as for "what else"- how about this?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ounter-protest
    Yvette Felarca. That's where I stopped in the article, because if the article is quoting her then its complete bullshit. Shes a violent nutbag.


    Prove to me that I'm wrong

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  • decay
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    Originally posted by cale
    And you haven't proven shit, you've only provided anecdotes. Even your own linked news source from Vice shows that the left is choosing to respond to provocation with violence, so yes, those people are going to be arrested. It's childish to approach someone or a group simply to illicit a response such as violence to portray them in a bad light, but that doesn't excuse that violence was the response they chose.

    So beyond your own claims and media sources showing the left acting out violently, what do you have?
    i haven't been disproven as z31maniac claims, either. you're conveniently ignoring which side was geared up like they were ready for a riot, and which had a pear-shaped housewife on a microphone. ooh, anti-fascists are dangerous!

    as for "what else"- how about this?

    Officers expressed sympathy with white supremacists and sought their help to target counter-protesters after a violent 2016 rally, according to court documents

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  • Mediumrarechicken
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    Originally posted by rhE-30
    You are either stupid or playing stupid. But here you go. Learn something.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=white+supremacist+images
    Hahaha, ok pal. As I said, ive never seen a white supremacist with my own eyes. Funny thing is I went to see my little cousin at her college and saw a conference room labeled non white conference room. I find that very ironic.....

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  • rhE-30
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    Originally posted by Mediumrarechicken
    Where were the white supremacists at? Ive never seen a real one in my life
    You are either stupid or playing stupid. But here you go. Learn something.

    Let Me Google That For You (LMGTFY): for all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than search it for themselves.

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