Democratic Primary Season 2020

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  • Morrison
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    Originally posted by Schnitzer318is
    I must admit have been remiss in following the town halls and other speaking engagements. ^But, what you say is encouraging and I hope she continues that specificity during the debates when the audience is larger. Can't stand when candidates pander to smaller audiences and then get vague as hell when on a national stage.

    I don't have a front runner yet as it is so early. I like some of what just about all of the major candidates have to say. Would hate to see Biden get the nomination though.


    I agree and it's not because I hate Biden or anything. He was a fine VP and I think he should be happy to leave it at that. I really don't want to hear about every questionable thing he's said or done over the next year and a half. I find it odd that he's doing so well in all the polling, but I suspect he will drop rapidly much like Jeb did as we go along and people start to learn more about the other candidates.

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  • Schnitzer318is
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    Originally posted by mbonder
    I agree, watched one of her town halls recently and she definitely raised her stature in my mind with the level of specificity in her comments and her composure when asked tough questions. It'll be interesting to see if she can stand out against the lesser known contenders. If she can distance herself from them she'll be primed for the next debate against the main players.
    I must admit have been remiss in following the town halls and other speaking engagements. ^But, what you say is encouraging and I hope she continues that specificity during the debates when the audience is larger. Can't stand when candidates pander to smaller audiences and then get vague as hell when on a national stage.

    I don't have a front runner yet as it is so early. I like some of what just about all of the major candidates have to say. Would hate to see Biden get the nomination though.

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  • decay
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    so far i still like booker's messaging more than anyone else's.

    we'll see how he fares in the debates.

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  • mbonder
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    I agree, watched one of her town halls recently and she definitely raised her stature in my mind with the level of specificity in her comments and her composure when asked tough questions. It'll be interesting to see if she can stand out against the lesser known contenders. If she can distance herself from them she'll be primed for the next debate against the main players.

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  • Morrison
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    I’ve really been impressed by Elizabeth Warren over the past couple of months. She’s clearly putting in more effort than anyone else and has been doing in amazing job at the town hall appearances. More plans than anyone else. I did a little reading up and saw that she had apparently won the state debate championship and won a debate scholarship at age 16. I’ll be watching to see how she fares on Wednesday in the first debate.

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  • phillipj
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    Originally posted by gwb72tii
    I’m interested to know if any of you that tend to vote for left leaning candidates if you’re actually enthusiastic about Biden, other than he may be able to unseat Trump?
    Here's a fantastic & smart Podcast to listen to that is 100% dead-on on Biden:

    Joe Biden Would be a Disaster

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  • gwb72tii
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    I’m interested to know if any of you that tend to vote for left leaning candidates if you’re actually enthusiastic about Biden, other than he may be able to unseat Trump?

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  • Schnitzer318is
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    I for one am glad to see it. The voter can not keep the platforms of 20+ candidates straight. At least not with still maintaining a job, family life, etc. It's information over load.

    This will also weed out the candidates who have literally no chance. Not sure why some of them even take a shot unless it's just for future name recognition (or to sell a book).

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  • mbonder
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    Due to the large number of primary contestants, the DNC has raised the standards that must be met for a candidate to participate in the third debate, hosted by ABC, scheduled for Sept. 12.

    Looks like:
    -Polling numbers must be at least 2% in four different polls (Doubled from the criteria for the first two debates)
    -Donations from at least 130,000 individuals donors (Doubled from the criteria for the first two debates)
    -Donations from 400 unique donors in at least 20 different states

    These criteria will also be in place for the fourth debate in October.

    As of right now it looks like these candidates meet the criteria:

    -Joe Biden
    -Bernie Sanders
    -Elizabeth Warren
    -Kamala Harris
    -Amy Klobuchar
    -Corey Booker
    -Pete Buttigieg
    -Beto O'Rourke

    This would really pare down the field in the debates come the fall unless some of the others start making moves.

    Thoughts?

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  • gwb72tii
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    Originally posted by 2mAn
    Curious what the thoughts are behind Tulsi Gabbard, listening to the Joe Rogan podcast with her on it. Some interesting viewpoints that I have to agree with

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  • phillipj
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    Originally posted by 2mAn
    Curious what the thoughts are behind Tulsi Gabbard, listening to the Joe Rogan podcast with her on it. Some interesting viewpoints that I have to agree with
    Thanks for mentioning, looked it up, was a good interview
    I like Tulsi a lot.

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  • mbonder
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    NYC mayor Bill De Blasio in the race, we are at 24 participants.

    As far as Tulsi Gabbard is concerned, she has definitely changed her stances as of recently to fit the left wing agenda more thoroughly, which won't really play well to the national audience.

    My in-laws live in Hawaii and I asked them about her and their comment was, "Pretty sure she's running simply to gain name recognition for the post election cycle". Who knows, but I wouldn't doubt that she might not be the only one in this crowded field thinking I can really make some money off this when all the dust settles.

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  • Schnitzer318is
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    DoA bid given her previous stance on LGBTQ lifestyle, legislation, and even working for anti-gay organizations. Not sure what her other positions are but that alone will probably keep her from gaining serious momentum.

    I hadn't heard of her until your mention of her. Will have to listen to that podcast though as I like the excerpt I saw where she berated the Clinton's speaking tours. Going to have a very large hill to climb though.

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  • 2mAn
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    Curious what the thoughts are behind Tulsi Gabbard, listening to the Joe Rogan podcast with her on it. Some interesting viewpoints that I have to agree with

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  • Schnitzer318is
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    Originally posted by mbonder
    I simply don't care about the number, my point was that Congress seems to be more interested (and in particular these guys running for President on the left) to treat the symptom rather than treating the cause of it, which just isn't smart, doesn't matter which way you slice it.

    Where is the proof that a measure such as capping interest rates at 15% will change anything? Will this actually help people? Or will the poor habits continue, if not be strengthened by the fact that the penalty isn't as bad as it was before?
    I get you and I agree with the points you are making. I'm not overly concerned with CC rates as an issue either. My first response regarding it was one of, "meh, I'm fine with it... won't determine my vote one way or the other, but why is 15% not enough ROI for the bank?" But my response garnered a response as if it was an attack against the free market (which we don't have anyway) or dismissing personal accountability. CC rates are an issue that's not really on my radar, but corporate greed and political influence most certainly is. I know many enjoy the Gordon Gecko school of finance mentality when it comes to business... I'm not one of them.

    I have not seen, nor sought, any proof that 15% will change anything socially as that is not my motivation for being okay with the cap. What it will change is the amount of money the banks make, and by relation, the board members. That is something I'd like to see.

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