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    #16
    Do you still have Power Steering? That's about 14lb that can be removed.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      #17
      Yup thats all out

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        #18
        One trick I used on my own e30 H23 was to move the engine back by about 3/8" by using V8 motor mounts. This is a cheap handling upgrade and it transfers a lot of weight to the rear axle, improving handling.

        Lee
        Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
          One trick I used on my own e30 H23 was to move the engine back by about 3/8" by using V8 motor mounts. This is a cheap handling upgrade and it transfers a lot of weight to the rear axle, improving handling.

          Lee
          motor mounts from which car?

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            #20
            my work uses these guys for our drag cars they have batteries that weigh 5 Lbs

            :borg:

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              #21
              Originally posted by p0cket penguins View Post
              motor mounts from which car?
              If I remember, they arte e34 V8 mounts.They are offset, so you just twist them. It was a populat trick a decade ago. The only drwaback is that the back of the engine head is closer to the firewall. Not much room to tilt it if you want to do a clutch job. So you have the slightly lower the subframe for such task. No biggie. The improvement in handling is major because not only the engine moves back, but also the heavy tranny...

              Lee
              Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

              massivebrakes.com

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                #22
                do i need to modify anything else down the line of parts.... or just tighten the two halves of the drive shaft together?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Scott///M View Post
                  FWIW: a lot of Spec E30 racers have been going with larger, heavier batteries... tractor batteries. Because once you've gutted the car, you need to add weight (anywhere from 15-45 lbs) so we're trying to get more weight in the rear (loop hole in ballast rule). This may not apply to you application. Just thought I'd share....
                  Will it help the handling a lot if you put wieght in the trunk of a stripped out e30?.....mine is awful and wants to rotate all the time...what tire pressures do you use in the rear of your race car cold?


                  2.7L M20 11:1 COMP 195 whp Dyno Dynamics 2380lbs

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                    #24
                    i fixed the weight floating rotation problem in the rear with some aggressive rear aero... works like a charm for me.... then again my car is a weekend warrior track machine.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by p0cket penguins View Post
                      do i need to modify anything else down the line of parts.... or just tighten the two halves of the drive shaft together?
                      Never tighten the two halves of the driveshaft. You should keep it sliding.

                      Nothing to modify.

                      Lee
                      Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

                      massivebrakes.com

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                        #26
                        After gutting mine down to 2380 lbs via removing everything from the interior/trunk, I had some serious traction issues... To the point where I was running 3-4 seconds a lap slower then before, and I even had better tires. The trick that brought it all together was dropping rear pressure about 6psi lower then front. I usually set my cold pressure to 30f / 24r (r comps - v710's and c50 z214's). I'm still getting lower then usual temps, surprisingly. I'm also still working on getting the car more neutral, as it still has unwanted rotation tendencies. And it's snap oversteer, so it's really a handful.
                        85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                        e30 restoration and V8 swap
                        24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
                          One trick I used on my own e30 H23 was to move the engine back by about 3/8" by using V8 motor mounts. This is a cheap handling upgrade and it transfers a lot of weight to the rear axle, improving handling.

                          Lee

                          Any reason this wouldn't work on a normal m20 e30? I'm definitely interested...

                          Would the shift linkage be OK? Is there enough room in the grooves in the body for the trans mount bolts to slide back? Swaybar/oilpan/exhaust/subframe/etc... clearance OK? Rad hoses stretch ok? I'm assuming 3/8" isn't that big of a deal to any of this stuff.

                          About how much of a weight distribution change does this provide? I'm not very good with math and geometry ;)


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                          I'm guessing you're talking about grinding the center stud off, and putting the stud near the edge of the mount into the hole of the subframe?


                          85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                          e30 restoration and V8 swap
                          24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                            #28
                            Grind the small bolt, and orientate the top one to the rear. I am sure a little ggogling could show several altrnatives for the mounts. But the excentric V8 units were the ones I picked. They are oiled-filled and much, much stronger than stockies.

                            No mods to perform. When I did it, I had stiffer Hartge springs. After the swap, the gap at the front wheel was bigger, while the rear one was smaller. And it was not subtle showing the obvious weight shift.
                            Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

                            massivebrakes.com

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                              #29
                              Here's another vote for the PC680. They last FOREVER and are plenty powerful to start my motor over and over and over and over...

                              Just gotta keep them topped up if you aren't driving the car.

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                                #30
                                On my 318is I had a 9lb Braille battery mounted up front with the rear cable removed. The stock battery cable weighs a ton.

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