What to do for brakes short of a Massive kit?

[2002maniac]

did you change your pads yet? ATE blue wont be the weak link if you are still running HP+ auto-x pads.

[Bishop]

I haven't changed pads yet, and the fluids going to stay ate blue, but I'm also going to rebuild the caliper which I'm guessing is going to get messy, so I'll re-bleed with super blue

[red911turbo]

Ate Blue brake fluid is a good product. But it is pretty old technology and basic. Blue or Gold (the same specs, different colors for flushing) will work great on cars that don't have major overeating problems. The e30 on stock brakes is known for the excess heat it packs. Therefore, I suggest using an even higher grade of fluid. But beware, it can become quickly costly. Pentosin makes some good stuff, as well as Motul with its RBF600 (dry boiling point of 593°F and a wet boiling point of 420°F) or Castrol SRF (S stands for $$$$) (dry boiling point of 590°F and a wet boiling point of 518°F) but is silicone-based and will require all new hydraulic components. Compare especially the wet boiling points of Ate's Blue (dry boiling point of 536°F and a wet boiling point of 396°F).

Which Pentosin product are you liking? Super dot 4 or their Racing fluid?

[SkinnyVT]

Just curious as to why you seem set on using ATE Blue? Is it just due to the price?

[Bishop]

No, I have a can and a half leftover still....

[Massive Lee]

Which Pentosin product are you liking? Super dot 4 or their Racing fluid?

Pentosin Super DOT 4 is OEM on newer cars among German car manufacturers. It is made to be relatively less hygroscopic than a performance fluid, mainly for people who bleed their brakes every two years... The Racing fluid is better for track duty.

Here's a great chart.

http://www.seinesystems.com/BrakeFluids.htm

[carnurd]

No, I have a can and a half leftover still....

Lol I have the same hahaha...win...

[kuzimmer]

No, I have a can and a half leftover still....

How long has the 1/2 can been opened? I generally don't use anything that's been opened more than a couple months, but I'm paranoid.

Kurt

[Bishop]

It's only been open for a few months

[briansjacobs]

It's only been open for a few months

use it or loose it!

[Bishop]

We just used some of it on my friends car, and the rest will be going into my car when i rebuild and rebleed my calipers

[Mr Two]

Let me just chime in to say that HT-10s are great pads. I've never had any noticable fade issues. This was at Nashville Superspeedway's road course though, so ymmv.

[e30s50dan]

Just curious as to why you seem set on using ATE Blue? Is it just due to the price?

I've been useing ATE blue for years at the track. No issues for me

[kishg]

if you bleed/flush often ATE blue should be fine on an e30.

[Jean]

I gave hawk hp+ a shot a few weeks ago and they are more than enough for doing autox events. Ran on dot r tires and used motul rbf600 fluid, rock solid pedal and no fade during enduro event. I also used this same fluid before in my 04 r32 with stock 13"? rotors and carbotech pads, no fade also at Thunderhill track all day (about 2-2.5 hours of hpde). IIRC speeds were in the 120-130mph range on the front straight into turn 1 down to about 60ish??