Alternative to Wilwood BP-20 pads

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  • dude8383
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    • Jan 2005
    • 10387

    #61
    Okay bad news. The f'in pads don't fit. They're far too thick and the local machine shop couldn't take of 3mm from each pad simply because they didn't have the cutting tools.

    Does anyone know what I can do in this situation besides telling Porterfield these are no good?
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    • dude8383
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      • Jan 2005
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      #62
      Anyone?
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      • Massive Lee
        R3V OG
        • Sep 2006
        • 6782

        #63
        You run Dynapro calipers. Right?

        What type of duty you expect? Track? if so, I suggest Wilwood's H compound for the track, and keep the BP20s for the street. H pads have a very high coefficent of friction. I don't know one person who disliked it for track duty. That pad is not harsh on rotors as long as it is not daily driven. It is also (relatively) long lasting. And as it is a pad made for Wilwood by Raybestos, you can be sure it will fit the caliper. The pads you got from Porterfield are most likely 16mm thick, while you need the 12mm units.

        Hope that helps. ;-)

        Lee
        Last edited by Massive Lee; 11-16-2010, 11:52 AM.
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        • 2002maniac
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          • Feb 2005
          • 4260

          #64
          You could try a different machine shop. I've used a high speed steel fly cutter on a manual mill to face race pads. This is very basic equipment that any machine shop should have.

          Hopefully more companies will start to support the dynapro caliper soon.

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          • dude8383
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            • Jan 2005
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            #65
            Originally posted by Massive Lee
            You run Dynapro calipers. Right?

            What type of duty you expect? Track? if so, I suggest Wilwood's H compound for the track, and keep the BP20s for the street. H pads have a very high coefficent of friction. I don't know one person who disliked it for track duty. That pad is not harsh on rotors as long as it is not daily driven. It is also (relatively) long lasting. And as it is a pad made for Wilwood by Raybestos, you can be sure it will fit the caliper. The pads you got from Porterfield are most likely 16mm thick, while you need the 12mm units.

            Hope that helps. ;-)

            Lee
            Lee, I bought the HT-10's specifically for track use. I don't want to return these because porterfield will charge me a restocking fee, I would much rather find a machine shop that has the proper tools to mill the brake pad.

            I'll definitely give the wilwood compound a shot after I use these pads up...will make things much easier since they make a pad for the caliper. As long as they're 12mm I'll be happy :)

            Originally posted by 2002maniac
            You could try a different machine shop. I've used a high speed steel fly cutter on a manual mill to face race pads. This is very basic equipment that any machine shop should have.

            Hopefully more companies will start to support the dynapro caliper soon.
            Do you want to do mine? I'd be more than happy to ship these to ya and pay for the service...Let me know if you have the time.
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            • Massive Lee
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              • Sep 2006
              • 6782

              #66
              HT10s are very good pads. Very forgiving and working and progressive in the rain too. Just remove a thin 3mm layer and you should be golden. If you have an hour to kill, simply rub them on coarse asphalt in an "8" shape to distribute the wear. It works great. I did it two years ago with 21mm pads doing down to 16mm, at a race weekend. But it takes quite some time.
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              • kishg
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                • Sep 2006
                • 2624

                #67
                bring em to guten tonight, we'll pass them around for everyone to give a "rub" :)
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                • dude8383
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                  • Jan 2005
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Massive Lee
                  HT10s are very good pads. Very forgiving and working and progressive in the rain too. Just remove a thin 3mm layer and you should be golden. If you have an hour to kill, simply rub them on coarse asphalt in an "8" shape to distribute the wear. It works great. I did it two years ago with 21mm pads doing down to 16mm, at a race weekend. But it takes quite some time.
                  Indeed, thats why I chose em. Several track guys recommended them, along with yourself.

                  That's a good method albeit an incredibly long one. We'll see if 2002maniac can help me out or another local machine shop before I attempt to manually shave it down on asphalt!
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                  • dude8383
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                    • Jan 2005
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by kishg
                    bring em to guten tonight, we'll pass them around for everyone to give a "rub" :)
                    I'm not sure I'll want em back!! LOL

                    I won't be able to make it this evening...it's my womans birthday tonight.
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                    • kishg
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 2624

                      #70
                      Originally posted by dude8383
                      I'm not sure I'll want em back!! LOL

                      I won't be able to make it this evening...it's my womans birthday tonight.
                      bring her! what's better than a guten party? :)
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                      • dude8383
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                        • Jan 2005
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by kishg
                        bring her! what's better than a guten party? :)
                        i would man...she already made plans with her friends. too complicated.

                        L should have made it friday :(
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                        • Lof8
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                          • Oct 2006
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                          #72
                          There is lots of good info here. Thanks for the link, Dude!
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                          • dude8383
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Lof8
                            There is lots of good info here. Thanks for the link, Dude!
                            No probs man. I'm going to be installing these pads very soon.
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                            • Lof8
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                              • Oct 2006
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                              #74
                              Dude, do you have any idea what the problem is that caused you to receive the 16mm thick pads? Doesn't 7812 indicate a 12mm thickness?
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                              Originally posted by TDE30
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                              • dude8383
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                                • Jan 2005
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Lof8
                                Dude, do you have any idea what the problem is that caused you to receive the 16mm thick pads? Doesn't 7812 indicate a 12mm thickness?
                                To be honest, I don't think that Hawk makes a 12mm pad...The next set of pads will likely be Wilwoods that fit.

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