Lenso 13 x 7.5 wheels with 225 50 13 hoosiers.

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  • Charlie
    kid tested, administrator approved
    • Oct 2003
    • 6686

    #31
    So have you gotten your mexican wheels mounted yet?

    Be sure to take pictures when you break your shit, it should make for some good entertainment, I haven't seen any good autox fuckup pics since that douchebag hit the porta-john.

    -Charlie
    Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
    '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
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    • trent

      #32
      Make sure you install some chrome mudflaps at 45deg angles

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      • Jordan
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2003
        • 12907

        #33
        Hey joshh... Alex is the end all to be all when it comes to AutoX here. Seriously. You are a < dirt when it comes to him. Show some respect.
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        • rwh11385
          lance_entities
          • Oct 2003
          • 18403

          #34
          what's illegal about the motor mounts??

          who said anything about 18" and 245? It just seems logical to run at least the size BMW made standard on the cars. Taking it to the extreme that just because we're not recommending 13" that you ought to get 18" is stupid. You sound like a little bitch. waaaaaah

          sell your mini wheels and buy some 15". those can be used to fit a fat tire. and you have have them FIT.


          doing grinding, calling up a crack team of engineers, and all this fuss to make wheels that don't fit fit instead of changin it up is DUMB. plus you're a moron and can't take good advice. end yourself

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          • 2002man
            Noobie
            • May 2005
            • 6

            #35
            what is wrong with 13x7.5 auto-x wheels? They may look a little goofy if he has to space them out, but they are super light and 13" rubber is cheap.

            Makes sense to me...

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #36
              Originally posted by 2002man
              what is wrong with 13x7.5 auto-x wheels? They may look a little goofy if he has to space them out, but they are super light and 13" rubber is cheap.

              Makes sense to me...
              because they won't fit without modifying the suspension & brakes and/or using extremely stupid spacers. ever see how close the 14" wheels get to our stock brakes?
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              • Charlie
                kid tested, administrator approved
                • Oct 2003
                • 6686

                #37
                Originally posted by 2002man
                what is wrong with 13x7.5 auto-x wheels? They may look a little goofy if he has to space them out, but they are super light and 13" rubber is cheap.

                Makes sense to me...
                Because he's talking about grinding down suspension components to make the wheels fit.

                I'm not a structural engineer, but I have seen stock e30 suspension components fail under autox usage, that would make me very hesitant to further weaken these components all in an attempt to save a few bucks. Add to the fact he's going to have to run massive size spacers, and you can see the reciepe for disaster.

                This isn't "competition engineering", it's "I picked up some throwaway honda wheels and am too cheap to buy proper sized equipment"

                -Charlie
                Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
                '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
                FYYFF

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                • 2002man
                  Noobie
                  • May 2005
                  • 6

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Charlie

                  Because he's talking about grinding down suspension components to make the wheels fit.
                  Ah, I didnt catch that. Maybe it wasnt meant to be. Hell, I cant even fit 13"s on my 2002!

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                  • joshh
                    R3V OG
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 6195

                    #39
                    Some of your reponses are very entertaining.

                    Jordan, no one is the end all when it comes to performance of cars. And if you truely think that, you will always be 2nd best.

                    If you stay with the stock size tires and wheels, you will never be competitive. The real problem here is the size tires that are on the market. To get anything thats wider than a 225 anywhere near the stock size (and get a wide tire) or smaller you have to go to a 18" rim.

                    The brakes are not the problem here. If you remove the dust shield, you have an easy 3/16" clearance. Not all wheels are made the same.

                    Going to a 13" rim does not change the suspension geometery. It does however change the wheel rate.

                    The wheel and tire are so small they wont hit the fender.

                    Oh yeah I'm still going to do it. But I will be modifying a few things to make sure the streering is good. Flame on!
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                    • rwh11385
                      lance_entities
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 18403

                      #40
                      To get anything thats wider than a 225 anywhere near the stock size (and get a wide tire) or smaller you have to go to a 18" rim.
                      Ignorant.

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                      Undersized and on something much smaller than 18".....need I find even more??

                      You are a fucking retard for ghetto backward-engineering a way to fit your wheels and tires on there as opposed to getting ones that fit.

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                      • joshh
                        R3V OG
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 6195

                        #41
                        I said wider than 225....lol.

                        Stop being narrow minded and think for yourself for a change. If you could get a custom made 13 wheel to fit perfectly and a 285 30 13 R-compound tire was made would you buy it? If you say no, your the ignorant one here. Please learn to read before posting. WIDER THAN 225. Thats close to the stock OD!

                        You have to go to a 18" wheel to get a tire thats not too big for the car. OD is what I'm talking about.
                        Very few of you can reply without being childish and throwing around insults? Like I'm going to listen to someone insulting me or talking out their ass like the guy that posted above me^^^ .....
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                        • joshh
                          R3V OG
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 6195

                          #42
                          Have any of you actually looked up Alex's results?? He started Nationally on 14 Aug 2003. Thats a full 2 years of experiance and he does not have a championship, so stop kissing ass and stop thinking he knows all.
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                          • Charlie
                            kid tested, administrator approved
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 6686

                            #43
                            Originally posted by joshh
                            Have any of you actually looked up Alex's results?? He started Nationally on 14 Aug 2003. Thats a full 2 years of experiance and he does not have a championship, so stop kissing ass and stop thinking he knows all.
                            He's got an outright (not class) win in the 2004 Atlanta Pro solo and has run top 3 in the Nationals.

                            Keep in mind he runs an E30. An E30, with an m20 shitbox motor. This is up against E36's, IS300's, Mini Cooper S's, ITR's and other much more capable cars. Most people gave up on the e30 as a competitive car 10 years ago, Alex runs this thing up front.

                            The e30 isn't a light car, and it is hobbled with an awful suspension setup for autox usage. To run with the lighter and much more powerful cars in DSP, it needs as much rubber as possible. 2700-2800 pounds is a lot to throw around on 225 tires. You're trying a setup that has already been blown out of the water, and then cop an attitude when someone who has actually run the car at a national level points out the flaws.

                            225's get overwhelmed with the stock M20, aren't you running some hacked M50 SM car?

                            Simply put, you look like a fucking idiot.

                            -Charlie
                            Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
                            '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
                            FYYFF

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                            • rwh11385
                              lance_entities
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 18403

                              #44

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                              • joshh
                                R3V OG
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 6195

                                #45
                                I don't know where you get the idea the E-30 is not a competitive car in DSP. And he was not running 225 tires. When have you seen a DSP car run 13" wheels at Nationals?? And power is secondary in autocross...you should know that! And the IS 300 is heavier than the E-30....
                                Your whole post justifies why he didn't win.

                                3rd place is 3rd place PERIOD!! And frankly there was few left in DSP last year to actually compete with.
                                Plus the second place car in the challenge was an Acura Integra in DS!! Thats a stock class with racing tires. He got beat by Alex by less than a second with a DSP prepped car. Sorry I can't kiss his ass like you do. He's obviously a good driver but so far not enough for my ass kissing attention.
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