Is there a track safe Anti-Freeze?

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  • Earendil
    E30 Mastermind
    • Jun 2009
    • 1662

    #1

    Is there a track safe Anti-Freeze?

    And I do specify anti-freeze, and not coolant. I started doing HPDE this summer, and out of respect for the track (and distrust of my car) I started running pure water instead of coolant. Well, winter is coming to the north cascades again, and my car should not be sitting outside with water in it.

    Is there track safe anti-freeze that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Or is the easiest thing to buy a bunch of anti-freeze, dump it in, and do a flush come spring?

    Thanks!
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  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    There is no track safe antifreeze. The right thing to do is to fill the system with anti-freeze mix when freezing weather is imminent and change to water & WaterWetter (or equal) once the danger of a freeze has past. On a related note, if the car has an AFFF system the bottle needs to be protected from freezing. Either bring it inside or use a heating pad. I use a battery heating pad for this.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • Earendil
      E30 Mastermind
      • Jun 2009
      • 1662

      #3
      Originally posted by jlevie
      There is no track safe antifreeze. The right thing to do is to fill the system with anti-freeze mix when freezing weather is imminent and change to water & WaterWetter (or equal) once the danger of a freeze has past. On a related note, if the car has an AFFF system the bottle needs to be protected from freezing. Either bring it inside or use a heating pad. I use a battery heating pad for this.
      Cool, thanks for the quick info. I failed for half an hour on google finding a solution, so I asked. I'm glad I didn't burn another half hour looking for a solution that doesn't exist! Thanks! :)

      Cheers,
      Tyler
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      • Nsquared97
        E30 Mastermind
        • Sep 2010
        • 1656

        #4
        Originally posted by jlevie
        There is no track safe antifreeze. The right thing to do is to fill the system with anti-freeze mix when freezing weather is imminent and change to water & WaterWetter (or equal) once the danger of a freeze has past. On a related note, if the car has an AFFF system the bottle needs to be protected from freezing. Either bring it inside or use a heating pad. I use a battery heating pad for this.
        Stupid question, but what is an AFFF system?

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        • SoloSol
          Member
          • May 2007
          • 68

          #5
          Google says its a fire system. I didnt know either.

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          • UNHCLL
            R3V OG
            • Oct 2003
            • 8789

            #6
            If it is purely a track car, I recommend using RV Antifreeze over the winter. It is not as harmful if you spill some when flushing/changing the system, and you can easily store it and use it for multiple seasons if the car is just sitting un-used.
            Below the radar...

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            • TobyB
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2011
              • 5168

              #7
              oh, and use an additive with your water, otherwise, your head will become swiss cheeze... (water wetter works)

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              • devon.818
                Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 2937

                #8
                everyone i know who has a sportbike has done atleast one track day. they all start freaking about the antifreeze and track prep.
                some use water, most use a mix of water and water wetter. 60 water 40 wetter

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                • Jaxx_
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1880

                  #9
                  Originally posted by devon.818
                  some use water, most use a mix of water and water wetter. 60 water 40 wetter
                  that ratio doesn't sound right at all.
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                  • 5Toes
                    Banned
                    • May 2010
                    • 9836

                    #10
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                    If it doesnt get below 15 Fahrenheit a 25% mix to 75% water should be fine... and that might be okay at a track day???

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                    • Justin B
                      Sikky Nar Nar
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 4273

                      #11
                      I would only run straight water on a track day. If your shit is going to freeze so hard it might crack the block at night before hand, there's ways around it, or dont plan on it.

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                      • djjerme
                        R3V Elite
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5082

                        #12
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                        • priapism
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 1182

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jaxx_
                          that ratio doesn't sound right at all.
                          No it doesn't. You're supposed to run like, a couple of capfulls.
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