lo oil press issues not a myth for us!!!!

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  • JRKOUPE
    No R3VLimiter
    • Dec 2004
    • 3159

    #1

    lo oil press issues not a myth for us!!!!

    I had heard varying opinions on our cars suffering lo op during some specific on track activities..BUT



    I have now confirmed via gauges, that I do lose op during a lt hander that lasts like 3-4 seconds....its a tight decreasing radius.......its not clear but my gauge goes to like 10 lbs or so.....my warning lite( that I instlld) does not go on.....its hooked up to stock lite....so thats what 7 lbs?......any how Im a bit unhappy.......but will continue to track and overfill a bit.....and Ill run some laps w/ the cam zoomed in to op gauge for a better view. Also, since my oil pan gasket is walking a bit.....Ill maybe add a crank scraper when I do my gasket.

    I love sitting down and just driving!
  • jht3
    Wrencher
    • Feb 2004
    • 288

    #2
    what PSI does your engine sit at while idling? i would get a pressure switch at or just above that number and plumb it in using a T. the stock 7psi switch on my m3 is just about useless
    James
    '88 M3

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    • JRKOUPE
      No R3VLimiter
      • Dec 2004
      • 3159

      #3
      Originally posted by jht3
      what PSI does your engine sit at while idling? i would get a pressure switch at or just above that number and plumb it in using a T. the stock 7psi switch on my m3 is just about useless

      James...thnx for respone.....she sits @ 15-18 lbs at idle. Im a little slow w/ electrics.... Plumb it in using a T to my warning lite I assume?...
      I love sitting down and just driving!

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      • coupeowner
        Member
        • Oct 2004
        • 50

        #4
        Yeah, the same thing happened to me when I ran out of 20/50 oil last year. I used 2 quarts of 20/50 and 3 quarts of 10/40 the night before a track day and ended up w/ my first oil warnings on a left at PIR.
        I have since installed a crankscraper from crankscrapers.com just to make sure I don't have the same issue again. The crankscraper was really well made and fit w/ no grinding required at all. I have also stocked up on 20/50 so that doesn't happen again too.

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        • nando
          Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 34827

          #5
          the crankscrapers are nice. I ended up not using mine though, it was a custom one off made for the ix and still needed a bit of work to fit; I just wanted to get my damn motor put together so I left it out. I'll just save it for another motor down the road..
          Build thread

          Bimmerlabs

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          • e30sd
            Fistee
            • Jan 2004
            • 5517

            #6
            same thing would happen to me at turn 3 cw

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            • JRKOUPE
              No R3VLimiter
              • Dec 2004
              • 3159

              #7
              Originally posted by coupeowner
              Yeah, the same thing happened to me when I ran out of 20/50 oil last year. I used 2 quarts of 20/50 and 3 quarts of 10/40 the night before a track day and ended up w/ my first oil warnings on a left at PIR.
              I have since installed a crankscraper from crankscrapers.com just to make sure I don't have the same issue again. The crankscraper was really well made and fit w/ no grinding required at all. I have also stocked up on 20/50 so that doesn't happen again too.

              Did the scraper and 20/50 allow you to have less oil press drop?.......pls tell me the results. At Pocono yesterday she dropped a bit in one lt hander. Its clear that its lt handers only.........!
              I love sitting down and just driving!

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              • Eliminator
                Advanced Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 199

                #8
                It's because our engines lean over to the right side. During left turns, oil doesn't drain out of the cylinder head very well and the sump can run dry. Same thing happens to my E46. Try overfilling the sump a little bit, 1/2 quart maybe. Don't get too carried away.

                To those that track their cars: Is there a reliable "fix", such as a baffled oil pan or extra drain lines from the head to the sump? Or do you just use an accusump?

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                • Charlie
                  kid tested, administrator approved
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 6686

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Eliminator
                  It's because our engines lean over to the right side. During left turns, oil doesn't drain out of the cylinder head very well and the sump can run dry. Same thing happens to my E46. Try overfilling the sump a little bit, 1/2 quart maybe. Don't get too carried away.

                  To those that track their cars: Is there a reliable "fix", such as a baffled oil pan or extra drain lines from the head to the sump? Or do you just use an accusump?
                  A couple of racers I know run a custom baffeled pan, contact a place like Apex performance out in San Diego, it's a nice part, but definetly spendy. I honestly can't say I've heard of too many actual failures with oil starvation on an m20. I usually overfill by a quart anyway when I go out on track.

                  -Charlie
                  Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
                  '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
                  FYYFF

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                  • JRKOUPE
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 3159

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Charlie
                    A couple of racers I know run a custom baffeled pan, contact a place like Apex performance out in San Diego, it's a nice part, but definetly spendy. I honestly can't say I've heard of too many actual failures with oil starvation on an m20. I usually overfill by a quart anyway when I go out on track.

                    -Charlie


                    tru dat.....

                    Apex part = 1k!
                    I love sitting down and just driving!

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                    • e304me
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 1374

                      #11
                      Originally posted by e30sd
                      same thing would happen to me at turn 3 cw

                      with an m20 or m42?

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                      • e30sd
                        Fistee
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 5517

                        #12
                        m20
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                        • Lance Racing
                          R3VLimited
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 2340

                          #13
                          I run an E30 race car on Toyo RA1 tires and my home track in Seattle has a couple of long sweeping left hand turns. We pull over 1g on these turns. I do have gauges for oil temp and pressure and the oil pressure drops very low in the left hand sweepers on every lap. I've been running the same engine for 5 years and it is still running great, so I don't worry about the intermittent drops. I just monitor the dials on the straights for anything out of the ordinary with no lateral G's on the car.

                          I'm running a stock M20 engine with just an aftermarket chip. Also have Ground Control AD shocks FWIW.

                          cheers,

                          Lance Richert
                          Lance Richert '88 M3, #35 PRO3, i3 etc.
                          www.LanceRichertArchitect.com

                          2019 E30 Picnic Weekend: June 22-23 2019

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                          • Low Level E30
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1646

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Lance Racing
                            I run an E30 race car on Toyo RA1 tires and my home track in Seattle has a couple of long sweeping left hand turns. We pull over 1g on these turns. I do have gauges for oil temp and pressure and the oil pressure drops very low in the left hand sweepers on every lap. I've been running the same engine for 5 years and it is still running great, so I don't worry about the intermittent drops. I just monitor the dials on the straights for anything out of the ordinary with no lateral G's on the car.

                            I'm running a stock M20 engine with just an aftermarket chip. Also have Ground Control AD shocks FWIW.

                            cheers,

                            Lance Richert
                            Great info, Lance!

                            How many times have you had to replace rockers? Also, what RPM do you use as a shift point?

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                            • JRKOUPE
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 3159

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lance Racing
                              I run an E30 race car on Toyo RA1 tires and my home track in Seattle has a couple of long sweeping left hand turns. We pull over 1g on these turns. I do have gauges for oil temp and pressure and the oil pressure drops very low in the left hand sweepers on every lap. I've been running the same engine for 5 years and it is still running great, so I don't worry about the intermittent drops. I just monitor the dials on the straights for anything out of the ordinary with no lateral G's on the car.

                              I'm running a stock M20 engine with just an aftermarket chip. Also have Ground Control AD shocks FWIW.

                              cheers,

                              Lance Richert



                              thanks so much...good to hear from a racer...........and I too am curious if you have had rocker arm issues>?...tia
                              I love sitting down and just driving!

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