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  • matt
    No R3VLimiter
    • Oct 2003
    • 3731

    #61
    Originally posted by Slick92GS-R
    i'm thinking that wheel lift is gonna occur in those 'non race only' cars that have decent suspension including good quality strut bars --
    Strut bars have nothing to do with it.

    If you have not enough rear roll stiffness (spring or bar) and too much front stiffness (usually an aftermarket antiroll bar, but it can happen on stock bars also) you lift a front wheel.

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    • Bruce Colby
      Noobie
      • Oct 2007
      • 30

      #62
      FWIW, a car will generate more grip and corner better with 4 wheels on the ground than with 3. If a car lifts a wheel in steady state corners, it's generally a bad sign. If it lifts a wheel due to some irregularity in the track, a bump or a dip for example, or perhaps if the the track falls away dramatically, suspension dynamics may result in a momentary lift. In the above photo of my car, lifting results due to a slight dip in the track. Photos taken slightly before and after this one show all 4 wheels on the ground.

      Still, it sure looks cool!

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      • T3rd Ferguson
        No R3VLimiter
        • Aug 2005
        • 3076

        #63
        Originally posted by Bruce Colby
        FWIW, a car will generate more grip and corner better with 4 wheels on the ground than with 3. If a car lifts a wheel in steady state corners, it's generally a bad sign. If it lifts a wheel due to some irregularity in the track, a bump or a dip for example, or perhaps if the the track falls away dramatically, suspension dynamics may result in a momentary lift. In the above photo of my car, lifting results due to a slight dip in the track. Photos taken slightly before and after this one show all 4 wheels on the ground.

        Still, it sure looks cool!
        What is your suspension?
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        • Bruce Colby
          Noobie
          • Oct 2007
          • 30

          #64
          Originally posted by T3rd Ferguson
          What is your suspension?
          Click here for details

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          • matt
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2003
            • 3731

            #65
            Originally posted by Bruce Colby
            FWIW, a car will generate more grip and corner better with 4 wheels on the ground than with 3. If a car lifts a wheel in steady state corners, it's generally a bad sign. If it lifts a wheel due to some irregularity in the track, a bump or a dip for example, or perhaps if the the track falls away dramatically, suspension dynamics may result in a momentary lift. In the above photo of my car, lifting results due to a slight dip in the track. Photos taken slightly before and after this one show all 4 wheels on the ground.

            Still, it sure looks cool!
            Definitely agree. :up:

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            • AlarmedBread
              E30 Mastermind
              • Sep 2006
              • 1510

              #66
              I got one on snow tires, doh!
              Last edited by AlarmedBread; 04-01-2008, 10:36 PM.

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #67
                already posted this before but it may as well go in this thread:


                note the big smile on my face.
                Build thread

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                • Eric
                  R3V Elite
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 5138

                  #68
                  almost have wheel lift, the big bitch is to big and heavy though!

                  My E30 v1.0 | v2.0 | v3.0 | My E28 |My E34 | My feedback

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                  • rsafier
                    Advanced Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 164

                    #69
                    Some from last year, I tend to lift in almost every corner no matter what, tried tuning it out but don't know if its completely possible. Seems the DSP cars running 245s have a bit more lift then 285s. Also had one event were I kept getting 2 wheels which wasn't cool, but that was due to the lot layout and already wanting to lift one.
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                    • golde30
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 11464

                      #70
                      ^^ you need some fender flares horribly.
                      IG: @Baye30

                      FRONT VALENCE IS ZENDER!!! STOP FILLING MY PM BOX PPL!!!

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                      • JGood
                        R3V OG
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7959

                        #71
                        It looks like an animal, jumping out to kill it's prey.
                        85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                        e30 restoration and V8 swap
                        24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                        • Eric
                          R3V Elite
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 5138

                          #72
                          Originally posted by rsafier
                          Some from last year, I tend to lift in almost every corner no matter what, tried tuning it out but don't know if its completely possible. Seems the DSP cars running 245s have a bit more lift then 285s. Also had one event were I kept getting 2 wheels which wasn't cool, but that was due to the lot layout and already wanting to lift one.
                          dude that looks like one of those transformers when it starts taking steps w/ it' wheels/legs/whatever instead of rolling
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                          • euro3
                            Mod Crazy
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 761

                            #73


                            That's some ape shit cornering.

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                            • rsafier
                              Advanced Member
                              • May 2006
                              • 164

                              #74
                              Its fun. Flares = time and some money. The car was built to drive, not look pretty :)
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                              • oldcarskickass
                                Member
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 53

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Bruce Colby
                                FWIW, a car will generate more grip and corner better with 4 wheels on the ground than with 3. If a car lifts a wheel in steady state corners, it's generally a bad sign. If it lifts a wheel due to some irregularity in the track, a bump or a dip for example, or perhaps if the the track falls away dramatically, suspension dynamics may result in a momentary lift. In the above photo of my car, lifting results due to a slight dip in the track. Photos taken slightly before and after this one show all 4 wheels on the ground.

                                Still, it sure looks cool!

                                Hmmm,
                                A RWD car that lifts the inner front wheel in a corner is 100% sure that the rear wheels are on the ground providing grip because they are (including the outer front wheel) in the same level.
                                Also the inner front wheel doesnt provide sufficient (if any) grip.

                                See some F1 hard cornering (braking or accelerating) and you ll see that the inner front wheel, in most cases, is lifted.

                                This is not due to bad suspension, but in many occasions, this is the goal.

                                DEFINITELY looks good though.
                                Originally posted by scabzzzz
                                Plastic bumpers eat a chrome dick!

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