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    A friend tested the 15" x 8" TRM wheels on a Massive Race kit. No chance. Those wheels have definitely NOT been designed with BBK clearance as a goal. To date Team Dynamic's Pro Race 2.0 remains the 15" wheels which is the most BBK friendly.
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      I made up a kit using the Dynapro radial mount calipers with the 11.75 x.81 rotors, fits OK with 2-3mm clearance to the barrel area of the wheels..

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        Lee, what's the verdict on your rally kit (Front and Rear) that was designed for 15's like the Kosei's. Anyone test that yet?

        - Brendan
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          Hi Brendan

          There are two dozen front Rally kits currently being tracked. Some with 15" x 8" Kosei K1s. The fit is tight, but it works.




          That kit can be upgraded to a fully floating system for extra $$$. For track use only as it is noisier around town.
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            Lee, I guess I should have been more specific. I know the Kosei's fit, but has anyone tried the new 15x8 TRM wheels with your rally kit yet?

            Trying to decide if I buy a set of these wheels, or just start trying to snap up more K1's as they show up...
            Brendan
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              Oh.. I see.

              The 15" x 8" TRM wheel has much less clearance than the 15" x 8" Kosei K1. I would even say that this is not a wheel designed to accomodate BBKs. The 8" TRM clears less than even a 7" K1. But if your un stock brakes, they sure would be great.
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                can i ask a basic question without getting flamed? will these in a 15x7 with a 225/50/15 require fender rolling/spacers in order not to rub? im pretty well set on these and tire rack's web site says they are available now. may pic some up in a couple weeks but want to know if they really are a direct fit. oh, and my car has a very slight drop on bav auto springs MABEY an inch at the most. thanks.

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                  Originally posted by nineohfour View Post
                  can i ask a basic question without getting flamed? will these in a 15x7 with a 225/50/15 require fender rolling/spacers in order not to rub? im pretty well set on these and tire rack's web site says they are available now. may pic some up in a couple weeks but want to know if they really are a direct fit. oh, and my car has a very slight drop on bav auto springs MABEY an inch at the most. thanks.


                  what is the offset w/ the 15/7s and i can give you an educated guess...
                  I love sitting down and just driving!

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                    Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
                    A friend tested the 15" x 8" TRM wheels on a Massive Race kit. No chance. Those wheels have definitely NOT been designed with BBK clearance as a goal. To date Team Dynamic's Pro Race 2.0 remains the 15" wheels which is the most BBK friendly.
                    Lee..Im 99% sure you once said it was the Pro Race 1's that were the good clearance version...........my recall may be wrong.
                    I love sitting down and just driving!

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                      The Pro Race 1.0 wheels have the transition from barrel to spokes at least 1" more to the outside, compared to a 1.2, therefore alowing more clearance.

                      The Sport kit with 21mm discs might fit the TRM. But not the Race version with extra thick 32mm rotors.

                      BTW Now that I can supply the Sport kit with affordable heavy duty 21mm, that kit can be used for racing without any problem. The older UL discs will require ducting to help get rid of the heat.
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                        Originally posted by JRKOUPE View Post
                        Lee..Im 99% sure you once said it was the Pro Race 1's that were the good clearance version...........my recall may be wrong.
                        I'm looking at the blueprints from Team Dynamics right now. I've got the old ProRace 1, the newer ProRace 1.2, and the ProRace 2 in front of me as I type this. I couldn't find the blueprints for the ProRace 1.3 yet.

                        In terms of the clearance between the outermost radius of the brake caliper and the inner surface of the wheel barrel, all three wheels are exactly the same. They have the exact same profile for the inner wheel barrel.

                        The only difference (and it's a small one) is the distance between the innermost part of the spokes and the centerline of the wheel. There may be a slight difference in the shoulder (where the spokes meet the barrel) depending on the offset. But this is something that can be corrected with wheel spacers.
                        Last edited by Emre; 04-01-2009, 02:30 PM. Reason: typo fixed
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                          Originally posted by Emre View Post
                          But, unless Team Dynamics is lying to me, the barrels are all the same.
                          Drawings are lying. The outer parts of the wheels are very different between a 1.0 and a 1.2

                          On the 1.2, the extremities of the spoke are much more inward, as on the 1.0 they are flush with the rim.

                          Pro Race 1.2


                          Pro Race 1.0
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                            Originally posted by JRKOUPE View Post
                            what is the offset w/ the 15/7s and i can give you an educated guess...

                            in 15x7 these wheels have a +25

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                              does anyone except Knockenwelle have any pictures of these wheels fitted to their car?
                              We are 34 pages in on this thread and I have only seen 1 car with them mounted using falken 615 RT's....are these wheels that unpopular?
                              anyone got any pics of the 7" and 7.5" versions as well


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                                Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
                                Drawings are lying. The outer parts of the wheels are very different between a 1.0 and a 1.2
                                Lee, you said earlier that the 1.3 looks to have much better clearance for BBKs, have you been able to confirm this yet?

                                I like the TD style wheels much better than the D-Force or TRM wheels. And I don't think I'll make the jump to Enkei RPF1s or SSR Type Cs as the are 2-3x the cost of the aforementioned and then would need spacers so instead of $400/set more like $1000-1400/set. For 3 and 4 less lbs per wheel respectively.
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