Who's drifting their stock M20?

[BrandC]

Who cares if you drift a stock/modified car, as long as you're having fun and doing it safely(on the track) then all is well.

[Jeremiel5]

just drift it! (at a track, obviously!) after that, you'll learn more about setups, but if you want pointers, then try my setup: (note: many ppl in here will talk shit about my setup, but they don't know better. I've been doing this shit long enough to know what's crack'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeen! plus this is what Mr. Tsuchiya himself told me to have for now; how I met him? well, my bro's gf is a pro-drifter, check her out, http://prettys13.com/)

- sway bars 25/22 mm
- strut bars, front and rears
- hard suspensions like h&r race w/bilsteins or a whole coilover setup (i just have pelican springs and kyb gr2)
- 225/50/15 for the front tires and 195/55/15 @50 psi (depending on how hot it is on the day of) for the rears on a 15x8 (0) offset wheel setup (it'll make our under-powered car slide easier with this setup)
- open diff will be hard to drift on because only one tire spins, so when i had an open diff, i was running 55-60 psi on rear tires (195/55/15 - rears while 225/40/17 - fronts)
- 3.73 rear end is what i have and it works perfect for a 325i
- weld your diff if you can and you will feel a ginourmous difference between drifting an open and a 2-way


I will be drifting for sure in a couple of months and I will have e30fiend, einstein57, e30polak, pe2one, lov-e30, coupper s, and whoever I can convince to come with me to video tape my session, so you can see how easily it can be done with my setup and put my name on this map.

CHUUCH













for all that doesn't know Mr. Tsuchiya, please go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO1uXMPc0yo (Drift Bible - will teach you everything you will need to know)

[e30rcr]

As far as the "it's obvious how many of you know the difference between a drift and a power over by this thread; not many comment" that was made... it's obvious you're an idiot being as a power over is a form of drifting, and this is a conversation about drifting stock M20's, which aren't exactly renowned for doing 100mph dynamic drifts. Also the guy is obviously new to drifting so to recommend much more than power over would be pretty stupid on your part. Nevermind the fact that almost all videos and pictures posted were E30 M20's in full counter steer, flying sideways. Last I checked... we call that drifting.

If you don't ENTER a corner sideways, you will not win ANY drift event or even place. Power over is not a DRIFT.

Have you even seen professional drifting on TV? Gone to a drift event? Ridden with anyone drifting?

You really sound like you have no idea what your talking about.

As far as nitrous goes, there are very good applications for it in motorsports of all kinds, obviously you have never used it personally either.

Stop you inexperienced and blind ranting before it bites you in the ass.

To those that just hate on drifting in general. GO TO AN EVENT! RIDE IN A CAR! You won't hate it anymore. It's incredibly fun, technical, and entering corners at 60mph + sideways take some SERIOUS balls.

[Jeremiel5]

If you don't ENTER a corner sideways, you will not win ANY drift event or even place. Power over is not a DRIFT.

Have you even seen professional drifting on TV? Gone to a drift event? Ridden with anyone drifting?

You really sound like you have no idea what your talking about.

As far as nitrous goes, there are very good applications for it in motorsports of all kinds, obviously you have never used it personally either.

Stop you inexperienced and blind ranting before it bites you in the ass.

To those that just hate on drifting in general. GO TO AN EVENT! RIDE IN A CAR! You won't hate it anymore. It's incredibly fun, technical, and entering corners at 60mph + sideways take some SERIOUS balls.

CHUUCH

[Erick]

If you don't ENTER a corner sideways, you will not win ANY drift event or even place. Power over is not a DRIFT.

Wrong.

It seems that time and time again many people keep arguing what's the true definition of a drift. By the text book, drifting is oversteering. If the rear end is out, you're drifting. Now, is it a proper method of drifting (by judging standards)? Not really, but it's drifting none the less.

Wanted to point that out before people start getting their own ideas.

To those that just hate on drifting in general. GO TO AN EVENT! RIDE IN A CAR! You won't hate it anymore. It's incredibly fun, technical, and entering corners at 60mph + sideways take some SERIOUS balls.

From experience, 3 out of 4 people that complain about drifting is because the sport originated on the streets. They don't mind the sport itself (some just dont understand how you can justify the cost in tires), but the fact that it was done callously in the streets.

A lot of the guys here in the forum lightened up when more drifters started showing that there are track events to cater the drifters now, providing us with a safe place to practice.

Just wanted to clear those two points up.

- Erick

[Jeremiel5]

Just wanted to clear those two points up.

- Erick

c'est clair! that's clear!



when you coming down to LA? I would like for you to drift my car when you are down here in socal... maybe at willow springs or el toro or which ever track permits when you're down here?, so I can learn a little bit more about your skills. I'd like to see you do HTM with my e30, but it's non-turbo, so a lot of handbrakes, hehe, unless you do it differently which is what I'd like to see and learn...

[Erick]

I was in LA a week ago. I got to chill with Jesse, Jon, Mariano, and a few other guys.

My car should be at Willow Springs at the end of June if all goes as planned. I have recently driven stock KA-powered 240sx's to 500whp 1jz powered RX7s. A good driver should always be able to make the best of what's given to him.

Here's a recent picture of the event where my motor blew hours before. I was driving the orange car:


All the car has is some old K-Sport coilovers and a welded differential.

By the way, the less power you have, the less ebrake you should be using.

- Erick

[eyagel]

i bet erick wants to kill someone right now, erick is the only real hardcore e30 drifter around (e-rich too).

[Fidhle007]

i bet erick wants to kill someone right now, erick is the only real hardcore e30 drifter around (e-rich too).

Not everyone wants to kill people they don't agree with. Just because your teen e-thuggin hormones drive you to violence doesn't mean that's the only way.

[E30_fiend]

Like I said before, I'm not against drifting in a safe environment. Parking lots and streets are not safe environments. I have been to drift events before. Both professional and non-professional. It is a very technical sport and it is very cool to watch. But only on a track. That's the only good place to do it.

Erick, I would love to see your car in action bro. It is a sexy ass car that I just wanna see in person.


E30Fiend

[Jeremiel5]

I was in LA a week ago. I got to chill with Jesse, Jon, Mariano, and a few other guys.

My car should be at Willow Springs at the end of June if all goes as planned. I have recently driven stock KA-powered 240sx's to 500whp 1jz powered RX7s. A good driver should always be able to make the best of what's given to him.

Here's a recent picture of the event where my motor blew hours before. I was driving the orange car:


All the car has is some old K-Sport coilovers and a welded differential.

By the way, the less power you have, the less ebrake you should be using.

- Erick

TIGHT! damn mann, I wish I knew! thanks for telling me Jesse and Jon! I just met Mariano, but Jesse and Jon got my phone number and they didn't even tell me you were down here! dang it! i guess i ain't cool enough, pshh! lol

I'll PM you my celly. give me a call when you're down here. I got an alpineweiB that i'm working on right now, but straight N/A for now and then turbo next year or so. are you bringing your e30 this June? are you going for the ProAm? I wish you the best, bro! but definitely hit me up when you're down here

[Erick]

Not everyone wants to kill people they don't agree with. Just because your teen e-thuggin hormones drive you to violence doesn't mean that's the only way.

Exactly. Just like everything else in this interwebz, there is a whole lot of mis-information going around, especially regarding something new such as drifting. I just share my knowledge based on experience to help clarify for others so that way it's not just random bragging about.

I don't have "drifter enemies". In the end, it's something where we can all relate. I am always more than happy to help out a fellow newcomer out.

Like I said before, I'm not against drifting in a safe environment. Parking lots and streets are not safe environments. I have been to drift events before. Both professional and non-professional. It is a very technical sport and it is very cool to watch. But only on a track. That's the only good place to do it.

Erick, I would love to see your car in action bro. It is a sexy ass car that I just wanna see in person.


E30Fiend

That comment is mildly arguable, but for the sake of me not having the time to properly explain why, I'll let it go. Yes it's not a safe environment, but the reason "why" is always obvious: (apparently not so) common sense. But besides that, it is still illegal. So even as safe as you might be out there, there are still heavy consequences to endure.

I used to slide on the streets, it's basically a public fact, but lately there has been so many events locally that I have no need to take it to the streets anymore. 90% of the time, the track is a safer environment with room for error (& practice).

I should be spending a few weeks with the e30 with SoCal. Any of you guys are more than welcome to come to events happening over there in the meantime.

- Erick

[duodvlhntr]

Good Lord I do hope I get to meet most of you at the e30 picnic this year.

I don't understand this whole, "Drifting isn't a real sport" thing. Nor do I understand the people who say so. If drag racing (which, I do believe started in the streets) is a real sport, then why isn't drifting? More importantly, it's motorsports. That's what really matters. It's also more than that. It's like racing and concours wrapped into one big, smoky pacakge. Anyone who is slightly interested in cars can appreciate that.

On a topic related note, if you're going to spend a lot of time bouncing off the rev-limiter, I highly, highly suggest replacing the oil pump drive gear bearing. And checking the block for cracks. But you probably already knew that...

[E30_fiend]

I should be spending a few weeks with the e30 with SoCal. Any of you guys are more than welcome to come to events happening over there in the meantime.

- Erick

I'm down bro. I've been waiting to see your car in action in person.


E30Fiend

[e30 gangsta]

i bet erick wants to kill someone right now, erick is the only real hardcore e30 drifter around (e-rich too).

* waves *

damn car has been down for almost a year now. Cage should be showing up soon. So ill be on the track shortly.