Who's drifting their stock M20?

[OldSkoolE3]

Yep im in to the old skool threads ;)

[robgoesvroom]

keep the momentum going

[yeaseth]

I drift my almost stock m20 a bunch, you can get the tail out pretty easy with some stiffer springs in the back and with decent tires in the front, I just need a stiffer sway bar in the back to help out alittle.

Heres a video I took literally holding my Iphone out the window...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH8Z71bykdc

Not good drifting but you can get the point

[shiboujin]

Me doing about 65mph in this picture with a completely unmodified M20.

[MOBBIN4DEEP]

everytime i drive it i get sideways its too hard not to hehehe

[pandaboo911]

[QUOTE=e30 gangsta;1046524 They put unwanted extra strain on your car and could break. .[/QUOTE]

If done properly, the welds will never break, even at 800+HP. However if not done properly the welds could break mid corner and send you into a wall, I have seen this happen.

If you weld your diff, do it right.

[shiboujin]

Also if you slam your car and weld the diff, the odd angle of the axles have been known to cause them to break.

[ROLLingKING]

I have never driven an e30 with a welded diff, but from my experience with 240s and welded diffs, they do promote oversteer on entry and mid-drift, as Luis (etxxz) mentioned.

yeeaaah i love this thread..my car is stock except for a kamotor intake which ive been happy with!
my question is for the florida guy who seems to know his way sideways pretty well.lol....how do I get crazy steering angle like that!!?!?!?!??
pleeease.
i think that, along with a e36 steering rack will make for a dope drift e30. i got my car in april and all my mods have been suspension/sways/cross brace. i mainly go out and practice/try in the rain cause its easier on me and the tires and the noise.
ive also heard that i dont want to stiffen up the chasis too much tho? i like the solid feel muuch more than flex but i wanted to hear some opinions on that also.it seems like that would be more preferance that rule of thumb if that makes sense....but that steering angle! HOW?lol

[e30 gangsta]

^ people run e46 m3 control arms, since they have a wider track with oem inner and outters with stock tie rod spacers. It is a mission though and a lot of measuring of the inner and outters for the correct length.

Personally that is a mission to me. A simple z3 e36 rack swap, take off the steering stops, and have someone make you knuckles with a different tie rod pick up point seems easier to me.

The e30's have great angle from the factory, they just have a really slow rack. Most people who want more angle from a e30 do not even need the extra angle. Only when you are a seasoned driver and really need that extra angle is when I would suggest to look into those modifications.

If you are not on the steering stops when your entering or initiating then I suggest more seat time instead of steering mods.

[shiboujin]

I run stock E46 control arms. IIRC there isn't any real diff between the regular E46 and E46 M3 control arms. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'd love to be wrong.

[Chaos Theory]

Thats kind of a dumb statement. You're taking a car that is an amazing stock drift platform and saying if it can drift then of course other cars can? Doesn't make sense. The 4ag/4age is super high revving, sturdy, great weight distribution and only weighs 2000lbs in stock form. Here's a quick summary for you: click here I would love to have one of these classic cars that was only produced for a few years.

They are far from. AE86's are a piece of shit when stock. Stock for stock an E30 is better, in every imaginable way. I own both.

[slammin.e28]

ZHP ones are different, and I think they are the same as the M3. Only difference is what they're made of IIRC. There is a "upgrade kit" for regular e46s that consists of bolt on OEM stuff from the ZHP cars.

[rThor432]

Correct me if I'm wrong. I'd love to be wrong.

Don't worry, you are wrong.

[shiboujin]

link me to proof!

[rThor432]

E46:

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Sedan/USA/325i-M54/LHD/N/2001/january/browse/front_axle/front_axle_support_wishbone/

E46 M3:

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/Coupe/USA/M3-S54/LHD/N/2003/january/browse/front_axle/front_axle_support_wishbone/

Done.