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    #31
    I was talking more along the lines of a controlled slide pre-apex, but whatever floats your boat.

    It's been proven by telemetry that you can actually carry more speed into a turn if you slide your way "into" it. But any sliding past the apex is just losing speed/time.

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    Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
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      #32
      Originally posted by rwdrift View Post
      I was talking more along the lines of a controlled slide pre-apex, but whatever floats your boat.

      It's been proven by telemetry that you can actually carry more speed into a turn if you slide your way "into" it. But any sliding past the apex is just losing speed/time.

      - Erick
      Sounds believable, but the angle of drift must be way less than what we shoot for no?

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        #33
        Nice Drifting. Keep it up, no matter what the non - drifters say.
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          #34
          Originally posted by rwdrift View Post
          It's been proven by telemetry that you can actually carry more speed into a turn if you slide your way "into" it. But any sliding past the apex is just losing speed/time.

          - Erick
          I find this hard to believe... got any more info?

          I just can't imagine a car that's sliding being able to decelerate at the same or greater rate then the same exact car under threshold braking. Most r-comps do have a relatively high slip angle for max grip, but they drop off severely after 10 degrees or so from what I understand. I can see getting additional rotation, which could help for 180 degree, very low speed turns, but there's only one corner like that in that 6 or so tracks I've been too. But I still don't think the additional rotation would make up for the fact that you need to lift sooner and initiate a slide sooner then you would normally brake, since your rate of deceleration to hit the apex would not be as quick.
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            #35
            I need to find the magazine article that discussed that. I probably still have it thrown around somewhere.

            The reason why it's not done everywhere though is because it's definately not easy to do, and it puts a lot more wear on the tires, so in a race, your tires would not last as long.

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            Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
            ...one of the most hardcore E30's around. :D

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              #36
              I dont see Formula 1 drivers sliding into a corner, therefore it must not be faster.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Gray S. View Post
                I dont see Formula 1 drivers sliding into a corner, therefore it must not be faster.
                I don't see drifters pulling 6g's either :p

                In reality, it comes down to car setup. I'm sure in some weird situations "sliding" into a corner and getting better rotation at the apex of a tight corner can be faster then braking into it, but 99.9% of the time, you will not be as fast. I'm sure you could use it to make an asshole pass on someone, but in the end you will have just slowed the both of you down.
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                  #38
                  I added more pics to the original post, that's what this thread was about right?

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                    #39


                    Now that looks fun, it's a lot more than a little tail wiggle & a spinout.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JGood View Post
                      I don't see drifters pulling 6g's either :p

                      In reality, it comes down to car setup. I'm sure in some weird situations "sliding" into a corner and getting better rotation at the apex of a tight corner can be faster then braking into it, but 99.9% of the time, you will not be as fast. I'm sure you could use it to make an asshole pass on someone, but in the end you will have just slowed the both of you down.
                      About the closest thing I could think of would be trail braking, getting the car sideways that way, but that certainly isn't "drifting" in the "ass end out powerslide" method these guys do.

                      -Charlie
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Charlie View Post
                        About the closest thing I could think of would be trail braking, getting the car sideways that way, but that certainly isn't "drifting" in the "ass end out powerslide" method these guys do.

                        -Charlie

                        I am definatly sideways long before the apex. I am also definatly not as good as he is :D

                        I've only been doing this for four months now, give me some time and I will be doing beautiful straight line slides on corner entry :p

                        You seem like an intelligent guy, why don't you go try to slide into the apex of a corner, it's not as easy as it looks, and it's a shitton of fun!

                        Also the theory of the pre corner slide has been perfected by Moto GP racers, it's called "backing it in". Granted that proves nothing on the car front, but it is done in the highest levels of motorsport.

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                          #42
                          arguing about drifting over the internet.. cool guys

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                            #43
                            heres my autocross drift because there was alot of sand on the corse.
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                              #44
                              its all about gettin sidways!!!! DRIFT DRIFT DRIFT as much as possible

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by MOBBIN4DEEP View Post
                                its all about gettin sidways!!!! DRIFT DRIFT DRIFT as much as possible
                                Can you mob while you drift, or do do i tell the homiez to watch a homeboy get sidways

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