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  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #106
    Originally posted by gregslow318i
    just out of curiosity why did you go with a m20 why not a m5x baced motor?
    because no M50 could ever sound like that. :evil:
    Build thread

    Bimmerlabs

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    • Stevie30
      E30 Mastermind
      • Apr 2007
      • 1534

      #107
      Originally posted by gregslow318i
      just out of curiosity why did you go with a m20 why not a m5x based motor?
      Because hopefully when he goes for the m5x swap he will sell me that engine. Drool, drool.

      1991 325ic and 1991 318is

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      • Dyno4mance
        Grease Monkey
        • Feb 2008
        • 345

        #108
        Originally posted by gregslow318i
        just out of curiosity why did you go with a m20 why not a m5x baced motor?
        First of all I was not planning on using a bmw engine at all, as an LS1 would have been the first box checked in a perfect world...and in the future this maybe in the plan.
        My next idea was to build a 2.1 stroked M42 using a diesel crank from England and on and on...but the cost would have been quite a bit more than the current engine, 2 cams etc and it would have been very simular to the 4G63 evo builds we do all the time.....(so too much like work!!!)
        As I understood it at the time of planning M30s were just too heavy, also my research led me to believe thet the M50/S50 was also quite a bit heavier than a M20 baby six...and maybe not as suitable for the e30 chassis
        the M20, although an old design, has a very well designed cylinder head that offers very good high and linear torque that can be usually had from a 2 valve head...the only thing missing to get sufficient cylinder pressures to make good power was compression....so I fixed that with 11:1 pistons.
        Now I feel with proper tuning using MS and a 7000 rpm red line I feel I can easily achieve around 230bhp on higher octane fuel...I feel that power level is more than enough to move a 2500lb car quite swiftly through most of the events and classes I would like to compete in.
        The biggest gripe I have with this driveline choice is not the engine but the lack of choices in transmissions and gear ratios for the Getrag.
        I am sure people will disagree with my choices and have different opinions than me on my commentary....but I have built the car now and I am very pleased so far with the results...Flame suit on !!!!
        Last edited by Dyno4mance; 04-14-2009, 05:55 PM.


        2.7L M20 11:1 COMP 195 whp Dyno Dynamics 2380lbs

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        • kid325e
          R3V OG
          • Sep 2007
          • 6421

          #109
          Damn he answered that like a God.

          Any more questions?
          clutchCTRL!
          Move with a purpose.
          - 1991 325iX 4dr/5spd
          - 1976 2002 SlickTop/2.7i M20/G260
          - 2000 323i AT
          2016 Mazda CX3 Sport AWD

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          • tn325i
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Feb 2005
            • 1154

            #110
            The more he talks the more you will realize he knows exactly what he is talking about.... And a super nice guy on top of that... Makes a very cool car guy.

            That is all.....
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            • Dyno4mance
              Grease Monkey
              • Feb 2008
              • 345

              #111
              A few more pics to bump thread and show recent progress





              Videos of tuning and dyno sessions to come.......


              2.7L M20 11:1 COMP 195 whp Dyno Dynamics 2380lbs

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              • bstaps
                Noobie
                • Apr 2009
                • 4

                #112
                awesome
                1969 2002

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                • Andreas
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 107

                  #113
                  Nice car. Glad to see another M20 engine supporter.

                  Hopefully you will be on track soon and post some videos. I know the M20 is no M-motor but it can still move a stripped out E30 along at a decent pace. Who knows you may even pass a few of the M50 transplant E30s on the track.

                  Good luck.

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                  • Dyno4mance
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 345

                    #114
                    "Who knows you may even pass a few of the M50 transplant E30s on the track."

                    May?......I would say at this point it is an absolute certainty!!;););):nice:


                    2.7L M20 11:1 COMP 195 whp Dyno Dynamics 2380lbs

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                    • Stevie30
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1534

                      #115
                      Originally posted by tn325i
                      the more he talks the more you will realize he knows exactly what he is talking about.... And a super nice guy on top of that... Makes a very cool car guy.

                      That is all.....
                      +1

                      1991 325ic and 1991 318is

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                      • Mike
                        E30 Modder
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 932

                        #116
                        Are you still going to stick with the 4.10?
                        Supatek -noun - your basic know it all

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                        • Goya20
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 325

                          #117
                          sweetttttt!!!!
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                          • Dyno4mance
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 345

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Mike
                            Are you still going to stick with the 4.10?
                            Yes, for the time being....But having said that I have not driven the car but 400yrds:D......Things may change..
                            It has good rocker arms and light MM springs so reving it will be less of an issue than most....Probably set red line @ 7000rpm


                            2.7L M20 11:1 COMP 195 whp Dyno Dynamics 2380lbs

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                            • Dave
                              E30 RAT
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 11675

                              #119
                              like the number panel
                              Current Cars
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                              • Wh33lhop
                                R3V OG
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11705

                                #120
                                Hell yes. Awaiting video.
                                paint sucks

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