NOR-CAL General Chat.

[Wh33lhop]

but my jet's all hot and bothered and ready to go :(

Try. If you can't cool them down you may make a premature purchasing decision and that doesn't leave anyone satisfied

[Bimmerman325i]

Where are numbers to back that up... As i recall the 95 m rack actually has less travel as well

It had plenty of travel, I haven't noticed a difference in turning radius or available steering angle at lock. It might be a few mm less but any difference between it and Z3 non-M is splitting hairs.

E30: 36.5mm/rev

E30 M3: 38mm/rev

E36 M3 (95): 41mm/rev on center, after first half-turn from center (180 degrees), 51mm/rev, progressive ratio

E36 non-M/ M3 96+/MZ3: 45.5mm/rev constant ratio

Z3 non-M: 53.5mm/rev constant ratio

[rob&e30]

who is familiar with the s14?

the shitty Nissan?




























jk

[Wh33lhop]

It had plenty of travel, I haven't noticed a difference in turning radius or available steering angle at lock. It might be a few mm less but any difference between it and Z3 non-M is splitting hairs.

E30: 36.5mm/rev

E30 M3: 38mm/rev

E36 M3 (95): 41mm/rev on center, after first half-turn from center (180 degrees), 51mm/rev, progressive ratio

E36 non-M/ M3 96+/MZ3: 45.5mm/rev constant ratio

Z3 non-M: 53.5mm/rev constant ratio

Hmm. Sauce? IIRC the plebian e36 is progressive as well, and the 95M rack had about 20mm less LTL travel than the others

[Bimmerman325i]

Hmm. Sauce? IIRC the plebian e36 is progressive as well, and the 95M rack had about 20mm less LTL travel than the others

Nope. 95 is 140mm travel, E36 is 146mm travel. Sauce is autox guys measuring them. Plebian E36 is not progressive, but it does not have limiting plates installed like the 96+ M3 rack does have, hence difference in L2L-ness. 6mm of travel difference isn't noticeable.

Source: see posts 24 and 25, first-hand measurements.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1665455-Official-Z4-M-Coupe-Steering-Rack-into-E36&p=22537240#post22537240

[Thizzelle]

what's wrong with s14

[Wh33lhop]

what's wrong with s14

It's a stupid 4 cylinder waah

/eric

;D

[Bimmerman325i]

It's a stupid 4 cylinder waah

/eric

;D

[ERIC] Torque LOL........I has a sad[/ERIC]

[Wh33lhop]

To be fair, having driven it that thing would be super annoying to daily... Was very fun to wring out though.. while eric had a heart attack :rofl:

[Bimmerman325i]

To be fair, having driven it that thing would be super annoying to daily... Was very fun to wring out though.. while eric had a heart attack :rofl:

Hehe. I enjoyed driving it when I did but I agree the lack of torque and peaky engine is a great hoon car and terrible street car.

[Thizzelle]

yeah daily a M3 would be kinda poop, but mines tuned right and chipped.

[oliver.r]

im having a hell of a time trying to figure out my idle problem, I just want to hand it over to someone else and have them figure it out

[Thizzelle]

what does it do? Mine rumbles up and down when I have a cold engine like a old muscle car/race car.

[BlackbirdM3]

I have absolutely no issues daily driving my M3. I've driven other cars with smaller and bigger engines and there is nothing wrong with the M3. Yes it scoots above 4K rpm, but around town, who cares? Its got plenty of power to leave a stoplight in traffic, it does exactly what it needs to do with no fuss. I seriously don't get the whole "M3s suck as daily drivers". How does a person figure that a Honda Civic, or Toyota Corolla, Prius, or any other econobox is a better daily driver? They are all boring as hell to look at, drive or even ride in, yet the sell tens of thousands of them. An M3 has more power, is more comfortable, handles better, stops better, and well, does everything better. Heck, around town it gets 20 mpg, on the freeway its 29-30.

Seriously there is no reason to be above 4K rpm around town. None, unless you are on a freeway on ramp and then its a redline shift point (unless there is someone in your way or you have already exceeded the speed of traffic) Any manual transmission car will suck in stop and go traffic, there is no escaping that fact.

Who cares if the thing doesn't have 90% of its torque at 2K rpm. What fun would that be anywhere? Thanks I'll keep my peak torque north of 4500 rpm where it counts and is useful.

Will

[Thizzelle]

I'm talking as a race suspension point of view, although I have only a 5min drive to work. And also your're working your car everyday which means more maintenance and more money then if you had one of those piles of shit you mentioned above or a regular e30 3series. Others that say it sucks I have no idea, I would daily mine but the price of it keeps going up everyday that goes buy :)