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  • phenryiv1
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    • Jul 2009
    • 3246

    #16
    Originally posted by thereisnoyun
    get them at teh yard, mt airy has a bunch of plastic bumper cars
    Is that Crazy Ray's?
    Patrick Henry

    1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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    • thereisnoyun
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      • Feb 2007
      • 2301

      #17
      Originally posted by phenryiv1
      Is that Crazy Ray's?
      yes

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      • phenryiv1
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        • Jul 2009
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        #18
        I caved and bought another set. If Greg comes through with his set, I guess I'll sell them, but I'd prefer that he just give me a partial refund, unless we can work out some sort of trade.
        Patrick Henry

        1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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        • phenryiv1
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          • Jul 2009
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          #19
          If anyone talks to Greg, I would like to hear from him about his proposed resolution. I sent him a text asking how he wants to resolve this, but no reply.

          I am even willing to consider parts in trade as opposed to cash.
          Patrick Henry

          1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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          • Mde36
            E30 Addict
            • May 2009
            • 509

            #20
            you're gonna have to go see him. He has a selective memory and most likely chose to forget about you.

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            • phenryiv1
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              • Jul 2009
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              #21
              I don't like rolling up on someone at work, but it may come to that.
              Patrick Henry

              1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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              • Kershaw
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2010
                • 11822

                #22
                he did sell a POS e30 to some clueless guy for $1900.

                it didnt have a stereo, decent paint, or even a carpet....
                AWD > RWD

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                • phenryiv1
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                  • Jul 2009
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                  #23
                  Well, the saga continues. He told me 2 weeks ago that he did not get paid for 2 weeks, so I asked him about parts that he might have that I could take in trade. No reply. Then I asked him specifically about a spare seat that he has. He always says he still has it, but that is it.

                  He also tried to tell me this weekend that he never promised me the mounts, but I still have a PM where he says that he has them and "will take $200 for all."

                  Also this weekend, he tells me he is strapped for cash. Yet he just bought that blue vert, a set of RKs, and a ton of parts that I saw sitting at his shop when I got the bumpers. No wonder he is strapped for cash...

                  Every time I text him, he responds until I press him for how he wants to resolve it. I asked him 3 times for pics of the black vert sport seat that I'd potentially consider as a solution (partial or whole- depends on condition), and every time I ask for pics, he stops responding.

                  He offers the seat as a resolution, but won't provide pics.

                  If it would not jeopardize my job, I'd just go to his shop and collect some collateral. If I really felt that he was trying to resolve it, I'd be more patient. This has gotten pretty bad. It is not worth my time to drive up there just to confront him, but I suppose I don't have much else in the way of options but to drop in one day as I pass by for work.
                  Patrick Henry

                  1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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                  • Mde36
                    E30 Addict
                    • May 2009
                    • 509

                    #24
                    Sadly to say nobody here is shocked that things turned this way. It wasn't so much why it happened but when it would. I don't think you want to go thru the hassel and cost of court. Just keep the pm saved in the event you need it. Go to his shop with the best of intentions and play it by ear.

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                    • phenryiv1
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                      • Jul 2009
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mde36
                      Sadly to say nobody here is shocked that things turned this way. It wasn't so much why it happened but when it would. I don't think you want to go thru the hassel and cost of court. Just keep the pm saved in the event you need it. Go to his shop with the best of intentions and play it by ear.
                      Yeah, I'm not going to go up there and threaten to fight him or something, but he owes me $60. It is that simple. Filing fees are $35 for court, so that is not worth it.

                      I don't want anything more than what is owed to me or an acceptable substitute. I'd consider that seat, but I need to see it first. I would not really say that the seat is worth $60 to me, but something is better then nothing.
                      Patrick Henry

                      1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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                      • phenryiv1
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                        • Jul 2009
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                        #26
                        I just saw on NASIOC that he was looking to buy some track pads for his WRX. A guy I know actually gave him a set, but I am interested to see what money he was going to use to buy pads when he is not responding to me.
                        Patrick Henry

                        1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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                        • thereisnoyun
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 2301

                          #27
                          This is a classic case of understanding human tendencies.

                          - pay for a product and only receive incomplete item.
                          - he received cash in full, and there is no recourse cause it was cash exchange.
                          - paying you back is on the last of his priority.

                          Just go up there and talk to him in person. Its one thing, he keeps you on his last priority and blowing you off because he already got his cash, its another if he outright tells you 'I'm screwing you over, deal with it'.

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                          • phenryiv1
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                            • Jul 2009
                            • 3246

                            #28
                            Originally posted by thereisnoyun
                            This is a classic case of understanding human tendencies.

                            - pay for a product and only receive incomplete item.
                            - he received cash in full, and there is no recourse cause it was cash exchange.
                            - paying you back is on the last of his priority.

                            Just go up there and talk to him in person. Its one thing, he keeps you on his last priority and blowing you off because he already got his cash, its another if he outright tells you 'I'm screwing you over, deal with it'.
                            To be honest, I did not think about the mounts until I had paid, and with him having been a member here who I was referred to (not a random guy with 25 posts who PMs me at random), I went and trusted him. It is no different than sending a seller a payment and trusting that they will ship the part.

                            I should not have to drive 2 hours each way to talk to him in person. What if I get there and he still does not have the money on him?

                            He owes me fair market value for the parts. End of story. It isn't that he is telling me he does not intend to pay, but until he does, he damn sure should not be on forums with WTB posts looking for parts.
                            Patrick Henry

                            1989 325iC build: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=316880


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                            • Mde36
                              E30 Addict
                              • May 2009
                              • 509

                              #29
                              If you don't want to drive make it a little more public. Move it to general discussion kinda force him to own up or at least make people weary about doing transactions with him. The interwebz is a powerful place.

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                              • thereisnoyun
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                                • Feb 2007
                                • 2301

                                #30
                                Originally posted by phenryiv1
                                It is no different than sending a seller a payment and trusting that they will ship the part.
                                I disagree, you pay online with paypal you have recourse or claim. Hassle but you have ability to claim. There is paper trail. But I agree with you, that it is his fault, Im just stating that I've ran into alot of these situations when I first got my e30 and have learn the hard way, but luckily my purchases were not big ticket items.

                                Originally posted by Mde36
                                If you don't want to drive make it a little more public. Move it to general discussion kinda force him to own up or at least make people weary about doing transactions with him. The interwebz is a powerful place.
                                not likely, its greg we are talking about here. hahaha.

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