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    Econometer Boost Gauge - "Econoboost" v3

    Update 10/5/2015

    Sorry guys, due to a busy work schedule with travel and life schedule I haven't had much time lately to work on these gauges. I don't expect it to always be this busy, so I am looking forward to start making them again, however I don't really see any immediate opportunities to start in the near future :(. Work usually gets busier until after the new year when it lets up a bit.
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    Update 4/15/2015

    Current batch sold out! Thanks for the orders guys!

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    Econoboost v3



    What's new?

    New for Version 3 (June 2013)
    • No Wiring Required - With the addition of another circuit board that replaces the stock one on the tach, power is pulled straight from the cluster. Also the max boost recall switch is provided with wiring and a connector that plugs straight in to the econoboost module.
    • Internal Improvements - New, more capable microprocessor along with a different control method for the gauge, which should give more consistent, responsive results.

    Also keeps all of the functionality of version 2

    New for Version 2 (July 2011)

    One issue that I found with the original design was that all gauges had a different level of frictional damping. This meant that while some gauges were very responsive and quick, others were slow and inaccurate. While the original design worked very well with some gauges, it meant I had to be selective with the gauges I modified or I had to swap the motors around.

    With the new design, a motor driver was incorporated between the controller and the gauge, allowing it to be controlled with more power. The voltage now sent to the gauge has been doubled from the old design putting it closer to what the e30 cluster uses to control it.

    "Peak and Hold" - With the new design, I was also able to add in a new feature that would constantly monitor the boost pressure and record the max boost since the car started. A wire has been added to the module which can be hooked up to a switch that when pressed will recall the max boost on the gauge.

    Here is a video of "Peak and Hold" in action:


    What is it?



    The Econoboost module along with a modified econometer gauge, will turn a useless gauge that swings back and forth as your foot goes on and off the throttle (plus if you turbo'd your car, I doubt you would call yourself a hypermiler, if it even still works with your ECU) in to an OEM looking, very conveniently placed boost gauge. It gives a stock look with no messy gauges, and it lets you watch boost, RPM and speed at the same time.

    Currently the pressure ranges are available in the following, feel free to pick one or let me know if you'd like something different:
    • 0-20psi
    • 0-30psi
    • 0-40psi
    • Vac-20psi
    • Vac-30psi
    • 0-1.5 bar
    • 0-2 bar
    • Vac-1.5 bar
    • Vac-2 bar
    • Also Oil Pressure or Temp



    I set out from the beginning to try to create a quality design that would be robust and reliable, from having the PCBs professionally made to using a pressure transducer from the same family as the one used in megasquirt.

    How its Made

    The PCB boards are high quality 2-Layer professionally made in the USA with solder mask and silkscreen. I think they came out great.



    New board that will allow power to be supplied by cluster:



    The boards fit perfectly in a case that will be notched on one side for the vacuum/boost hose and on the other for the wires



    Here's a video showing the case being engraved and notched by a CNC router:


    To replace the stock MPG gauge card, a layered design was used to match the original thickness and also create the correct and even lighting effects at night. This is not exactly trivial since the cluster is lit entirely by two bulbs, so it took a few iterations to get the gauge to light evenly at night.




    A wire harness will be installed on the gauge that will connect to the harness coming from the Econoboost module and allow the gauge to now be controlled by the module instead of the cluster.



    How its Calibrated

    Each and every module is individual calibrated and test for particular gauge (though they shouldn't vary much between gauges, but after 20 years who knows if all gauges are the same still).

    Calibration is achieved using a pressure source, a calibration gauge and some tubing to connect all of it. Multiple points of data are taken which include the calibration gauge's reading, the input to the micro-controller, the output to the gauge, the reading on the gauge. From this data, a calibration curve/table can be built and it is then programmed in to the micro-controller to accurately read the boost pressure and display it on the gauge.

    For now, I'm going to say that the accuracy of the gauge should be plus or minus the width of the needle (actual value depends on the scale you pick). I'll try to get it closer, most of the times it is, but at the worst case the real value should be with in plus or minus a needle width away from the needle's position.



    What is it Compatible With?

    BMW e30 cluster designs can be broken into two periods: Pre-1986 and Post-1986. The Post-1986 cluster design was standardized between the manufacturers and allows greater compatibility of tachs between different clusters. Currently the Econoboost module is only designed to control Post-1986 gauges. Another slightly different module that will work with Pre-1986 gauges may be developed in the future if there is interest.

    I also assume that most people will want/have 7k tachs, which is what I will keep on hand. Let me know if this is otherwise.

    Post-1986 clusters had the coding plug on the front of the cluster (under a trim piece) where as pre-1986 clusters had the coding plug on the back and plugged in to the tach. Also an easier way to tell is by the number of red SI lights, 3=pre-1986, 1=post-1986

    So the coding plug should look like this on the front of the cluster (numbers don't matter):



    And you tach should look like this once removed (minus the cable):



    If there are large circuit boards with more components on the back of the gauge, then you have a pre-1986 tachometer/econometer.

    What's Included

    Every order will include:
    • Econoboost module
    • Switch to use with "Peak and Hold" max boost recall
    • Modification of Econometer, including new gauge plate
    • Individual calibration and testing of your Econoboost module to your econometer (now boost) gauge
    If you ever have a problem with the module or modified gauge, let me know and I will do my best to make it right.

    How to Order

    Okay, so since I will be modifying/calibrating the gauges and installing the gauge plates , there are a few ways to go about this:
    1. You take your tach/econometer out (or have one laying around) and ship it to me, I modify it and send it back with an Econoboost module. I will try to make this turn around time as quick as possible, but with shipping both ways it may take up two 2 weeks. PRICE: $125 Shipped
    2. I understand that some won't like being without a tach for that long (I know I wouldn't), so I will try to keep some on hand and as long as they are both post-1986 gauges, they should be compatible. I'll modify the one I have on hand and send it to you along with an Econoboost module. When you receive it, you swap it out with your original tach/econometer and send me back the original. The feasibility of this option will depend on how many tachs I have on hand at any given time (check with first, if you want). Also there will be a core charge which will be completely refunded when I receive your original gauge. Must be post-1986 cluster PRICE: $125 Shipped +$25 Core (will be refunded)
    3. You want me to just send you a modified gauge and module and don't intend on sending me anything back. This is fine, just let me know so I can keep my stock of gauges up. Must be post-1986 cluster PRICE: $150 Shipped
    Please let me know which option you would like to take.

    International shipping may be a bit more depending on actual shipping costs.

    WARNING: Some e30's won't charge the battery if the cluster is not in the car. So if you remove the cluster to get the tach out, I recommend plugging the cluster back into the car if you plan on driving it. I believe this only applies to earlier e30's, but I don't know for sure what year they changed it.

    Also, if you have any extra tachs (post-1986) that you are willing to get rid of for a reasonable price, let me know :)

    Please: If you send me anything, put a note in with it saying who you are (email address you used with paypal and your username). THANKS!

    Also, please keep in mind that I am doing this in addition to college courses (graduated!) my full-time job, so while I want to provide quick service, there is a lot that goes in to each gauge and depending on how many other orders I'm currently working on, it may take a little bit longer than expected. With that said I really don't want any to take longer than a week, so I'll make that my goal.

    How to Install

    Once you receive the module and modified gauge, you will need to remove your cluster to install it. Here are some decent instructions for that: http://www.rickk.net/i/drive/bmw-e30...ument-cluster/

    Open the cluster by removing the screws that have a hexagonal shape AND a Philips slot. The tachometer is held in place by three screws on the back of the cluster, remove them and the tach should pull out.

    On the back of my cluster there was a tab that I broke off which left plenty of room for the new connector attached to the modified gauge to pass through out of the cluster. If your cluster does not have this, you will have to drill, cut or find some other way to get the connector out of the cluster so the module can be connected to it.



    The Econoboost module has a thick white/beige (6 conductor) cable that connects the module to the modified gauge.

    If you choose to use the included switch for "Peak and Hold" max boost recall install it where you like, and simply plug it in to the module.

    Since power is now taken through the cluster, no extra wiring is needed.

    Just hook up some vacuum/boost tubing to the other side of the module and you should be good to go!

    Photos & Videos


    Included Instructions:





    (From Version 1)






    Video of Calibration of Gauge:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOVWMeGrb0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_uBvju-pQM

    Videos of Gauge in use:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_o6qxoT688
    (sorry for the shaky camera)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COdUn02He00

    Last edited by justrack; 10-05-2015, 06:59 PM.

    #2
    nice!!

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      #3
      Thanks!

      I'm pretty happy with how this version turned out. It addressed all the minor concerns I had with the previous versions and I can't think of much else I would like to change about it. So there's a good chance this will be the final design iteration.

      Also I know I don't have many posts on r3v but here's the thread where I was selling the first two versions, if anyone is interested in seeing some feedback: http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106185

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        #4
        Very cool!
        1986 911 Supercharged Frakenstrat/Stripped
        1987 325is Delphin/Black (Olga)
        1988 M3 Zinno/Natur (Elsa)

        Manual or STFU

        E30 Chapter of BMW Car Club of America
        E30 Oktoberfest 2017

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          #5
          I have the oil temp gauge in my wagon is it works perfectly!


          My 1989 e30 s52 Touring... this is Betty

          My 1989 325i vert (sold)...this is Nina

          My 1991 M5 (sold)... this is Veronica

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            #6
            We're did you find the oil temp one. I'd really like that
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              #7
              Any idea on e28 fitment/use? Very interested in this setup, I'm trying to keep the cockpit as close to OEM as possible.

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                #8
                Originally posted by nomansland92 View Post
                We're did you find the oil temp one. I'd really like that
                Here are the oil temp gauges I've done so far:



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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DangerWillRbnsn View Post
                  Any idea on e28 fitment/use? Very interested in this setup, I'm trying to keep the cockpit as close to OEM as possible.
                  Right now I'm only doing it for the e30. But I do have a friend who just got a e24 635csi, and as I understand it, the clusters are the same or very similar. So I may do this at some point in the future.

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                    #10
                    What's the price on these units, I didn't notice one. They look very cool.
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                      #11
                      I really want this soon.
                      I want to replace my VDO boost gauge with a water temp gauge, and use your product.
                      I'm trying to keep the car interior OEM looking and adding another gauge somewhere (I already have 4) isn't cool!

                      1991 325iS turbo

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by golde30 View Post
                        What's the price on these units, I didn't notice one. They look very cool.
                        At most 150. Thats a steal IMO.
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                          #13
                          Such a clean and professional execution, PM'd on an oil temp guage!!

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                            #14
                            Wow that's super clean!
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                            05 Honda Pilot

                            24V swap thread
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                              #15
                              I can vouch for these. Justrack does fantastic work.

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