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  • Euro
    Noobie
    • Feb 2017
    • 5

    #76
    M Tech 1 front

    I'm so glad i found this thread and it's current. I'm total New bee so cut me some slack if you don't I'll.
    Just got my M Tech 1 front spoiler a few days ago. Mine is grey and looks like the one described by CEP as the most updated. Also got my early euro valance from CEP a month ago. All will be painted and installed once the rain subsides in SoCal. Will post photos.
    I have couple questions though:
    1. since PlastiFlex is still fiberglass, is there a special prep needed to keep it durable over time before it's painted and installed? Any reports on durability?
    2. Does anyone have an install guide (similar to the one was posted for the rear)? I'm not sure what connects to the air ducts and how. My current front valance is the standard US diving board kind from 1987 with a rounded bottom attachment.

    Thanks!


    Originally posted by reelizmpro
    Sure, not a problem.


    Being in the US, few people have installed this kit. The euro bumpers complicate the issue as they are multi piece and require different hardware to mount the M tech front/rear bumpers. You will need these m tech "T" bolts instead of clips. They sandwich the front/rear aprons between the bumper and the trim. Research the M tech 1 thread on this forum and read the BMW M tech 1 installation manual to see what needs to be done. It will help.



    An issue I had was that my euro bumpers were banged up and bent so the kit would not fit right. I had to spend some time straightening the bumper enough so that the spoiler would mount correctly and straight.



    With the rear it takes some time to get everything lined up. You'll need 15 "T" bolts/clamps for the rear. Once torqued they will eliminate any gaps.

    Shows the line between the body and the skirt. This was most disappointing...




    With white caulking...ahhh much better. I guess that's the price we pay for not having to drill holes in the sills.



    Then there's also the trimming of the front and rear bumper end caps...



    This picture shows one of the trunk spoilers holes being off. 2 of them were way off and I couldn't use them. They were on the left side of the car.


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    • six2midnight
      Grease Monkey
      • Jan 2012
      • 326

      #77
      Well I took some time this weekend to try to fit the MTECH 1 side skirts that came with my kit, and in the end they are pretty much unusable without heavy fiberglass modification. As stated above they do not attach on the top by drilling holes in the rockers, so classiceuroparts tells you to glue them. The bottom is supposed to work with the stock hardware.

      That is the least of your worries. These skirts are so wavy and is nearly impossible for them to lay flat against the car. You will have BIG gaps all the way down. REELIZMPRO had to use white caulk to fill in the gaps on his car. This is unacceptable to me as far as quality, but they are rep fiberglass skirts.

      I guess I will sell them to someone that has more time than me and ill buy the factory "IS" side skirts for my build.

      Jus an FYI for anyone looking to get these. The front and rear bumpers fit really well for me.
      Race German
      Automotive clothing from your favorite brands included: CAtuned,
      UUC, Garagistic, Revshift, Moar Designs, Condor Speed Shop,
      Neue Motorsports, Bimmerheads, Motorsports Hardware and more.
      Also offer track decals for any track in the world.

      :thankyou:

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      • ClassicEuroParts
        E30 Addict
        • Jul 2013
        • 559

        #78
        Originally posted by Euro
        I'm so glad i found this thread and it's current. I'm total New bee so cut me some slack if you don't I'll.
        Just got my M Tech 1 front spoiler a few days ago. Mine is grey and looks like the one described by CEP as the most updated. Also got my early euro valance from CEP a month ago. All will be painted and installed once the rain subsides in SoCal. Will post photos.
        I have couple questions though:
        1. since PlastiFlex is still fiberglass, is there a special prep needed to keep it durable over time before it's painted and installed? Any reports on durability?
        2. Does anyone have an install guide (similar to the one was posted for the rear)? I'm not sure what connects to the air ducts and how. My current front valance is the standard US diving board kind from 1987 with a rounded bottom attachment.

        Thanks!
        Here are the front MTech 1 spoiler install instructions:

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        • bradnic
          No R3VLimiter
          • Jul 2012
          • 3550

          #79
          For those of you posting here that may not be aware, there's a very detailed mtech1 thread with lots of pics, installation guides and parts info.

          I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

          HOWTOs:
          DB vert plastic bumpers
          OEM Keys
          MTech1 docs

          88 ix Lach/Card
          91 ic Calypso 3.1
          86 Cosmo 2.7

          OEM+ or bust!


          reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
          TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
          e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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          • reelizmpro
            R3V OG
            • Dec 2003
            • 9438

            #80
            Originally posted by six2midnight
            Well I took some time this weekend to try to fit the MTECH 1 side skirts that came with my kit, and in the end they are pretty much unusable without heavy fiberglass modification. As stated above they do not attach on the top by drilling holes in the rockers, so classiceuroparts tells you to glue them. The bottom is supposed to work with the stock hardware.

            That is the least of your worries. These skirts are so wavy and is nearly impossible for them to lay flat against the car. You will have BIG gaps all the way down. REELIZMPRO had to use white caulk to fill in the gaps on his car. This is unacceptable to me as far as quality, but they are rep fiberglass skirts.

            I guess I will sell them to someone that has more time than me and ill buy the factory "IS" side skirts for my build.

            Jus an FYI for anyone looking to get these. The front and rear bumpers fit really well for me.
            I know the disappointment you feel...believe me. It was a big let down after the excitement about the front/rear basically looking OEM. They should have made a 1:1 copy of the original skirts and let us decide how to mount it. Then the top edge would at least be consistent. Since installing the skirts, I paid more attention to cars online with M tech 1 and noticed the same type of gaps on some. Also I think if the lower sills were body color it wouldn't be as noticeable but white on black sticks out like a sore thumb so I had to do something about it.



            Last edited by reelizmpro; 02-20-2017, 10:30 AM.
            "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

            85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
            88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
            89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
            91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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            • six2midnight
              Grease Monkey
              • Jan 2012
              • 326

              #81
              yeah, agreed. Those gaps are unacceptable.

              I guess im buying the OEM is skirts. I wondering how the mtech 1 bumpers will look like with "is" skirts. we shall see!

              For anyone else, my mtech 1 side skirts from CEP are for sale.
              Race German
              Automotive clothing from your favorite brands included: CAtuned,
              UUC, Garagistic, Revshift, Moar Designs, Condor Speed Shop,
              Neue Motorsports, Bimmerheads, Motorsports Hardware and more.
              Also offer track decals for any track in the world.

              :thankyou:

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              • reelizmpro
                R3V OG
                • Dec 2003
                • 9438

                #82
                I don't think iS skirts will look right with the M tech 1 kit because they are smaller and aren't ribbed like the front/rear. I would get OEM m tech 1 skirts, the kind that have the fender arches on ends (if you prefer that look).
                "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                • bimma360
                  Forum Sponsor
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1937

                  #83
                  Just placed an order for a Euro Metal Valance! Will be seriously considering Mtech 1 f/r aprons over the next few months.
                  E30 Dinan Turbo

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                  • exhaust
                    E30 Addict
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 411

                    #84
                    I ordered an MT2 bumper kit and MT1 skirts a few weeks back! Hoping this works out!

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                    • six2midnight
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 326

                      #85
                      Originally posted by exhaust
                      I ordered an MT2 bumper kit and MT1 skirts a few weeks back! Hoping this works out!
                      Hope you have better luck with the side skirts. I pretty much found they were unusable, without serious modification.
                      Race German
                      Automotive clothing from your favorite brands included: CAtuned,
                      UUC, Garagistic, Revshift, Moar Designs, Condor Speed Shop,
                      Neue Motorsports, Bimmerheads, Motorsports Hardware and more.
                      Also offer track decals for any track in the world.

                      :thankyou:

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                      • Euro
                        Noobie
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 5

                        #86
                        Euro valance and M Tech 1 update

                        A little update on my M Tech 1 front and euro valance. So it appears that the valance doesn't fit and the whole structure of that "euro valance" is very different from the one I have on my car. It doesn't have the top bar that connects left and right fenders and basically there's no way to screw it to the car other than there are two side holes that are supposed to align with lower parts of the fenders but it doesn't fit. Also it looks like it's not meant for cats with ac or at least my ac radiator is on the way. My us spec valance also has two extensions sticking out of it that are factory welded to it that connect to the frame and there are holes to screw it. Nothing like that appears on the "euro" piece. Bummer, because even if there is a way to force the euro valance to fit there would still have to be a lot of cutting g and welding done. I was under the impression it should fit any model, even after restyling models, so I fear it is just a defective piece. Very disappointed, now have to just cut out my us spec valance to make space for fog lights. Also, original valance overall seems more sturdy. So if any of you had dealt with this issue please advise.

                        On a positive side M Tech 1 front cover fits ok. It aligned just right and I can pretty much confirm that "plastiflex" is pretty flexible:) Had to bend parts of the skirt pretty hard without problems. Holes drill well too, definitely much better than regular fiberglass. I should finish putting together my bumper and polish everything and then will post photos of the completed bumper.
                        Thanks 🙏

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                        • six2midnight
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 326

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Euro
                          A little update on my M Tech 1 front and euro valance. So it appears that the valance doesn't fit and the whole structure of that "euro valance" is very different from the one I have on my car. It doesn't have the top bar that connects left and right fenders and basically there's no way to screw it to the car other than there are two side holes that are supposed to align with lower parts of the fenders but it doesn't fit. Also it looks like it's not meant for cats with ac or at least my ac radiator is on the way. My us spec valance also has two extensions sticking out of it that are factory welded to it that connect to the frame and there are holes to screw it. Nothing like that appears on the "euro" piece. Bummer, because even if there is a way to force the euro valance to fit there would still have to be a lot of cutting g and welding done. I was under the impression it should fit any model, even after restyling models, so I fear it is just a defective piece. Very disappointed, now have to just cut out my us spec valance to make space for fog lights. Also, original valance overall seems more sturdy. So if any of you had dealt with this issue please advise.

                          On a positive side M Tech 1 front cover fits ok. It aligned just right and I can pretty much confirm that "plastiflex" is pretty flexible:) Had to bend parts of the skirt pretty hard without problems. Holes drill well too, definitely much better than regular fiberglass. I should finish putting together my bumper and polish everything and then will post photos of the completed bumper.
                          Thanks 🙏
                          Great info on the "euro valance" It looks like another product CEP will have to take back to the drawing board. Glad the front valance fit well. We all have had good luck with it as well. now for the mtech 1 side skirts....
                          Race German
                          Automotive clothing from your favorite brands included: CAtuned,
                          UUC, Garagistic, Revshift, Moar Designs, Condor Speed Shop,
                          Neue Motorsports, Bimmerheads, Motorsports Hardware and more.
                          Also offer track decals for any track in the world.

                          :thankyou:

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                          • bradnic
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 3550

                            #88
                            Sounds like you have the early model euro valance
                            Post pics before folks start jumping to the wrong conclusions
                            I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

                            HOWTOs:
                            DB vert plastic bumpers
                            OEM Keys
                            MTech1 docs

                            88 ix Lach/Card
                            91 ic Calypso 3.1
                            86 Cosmo 2.7

                            OEM+ or bust!


                            reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
                            TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
                            e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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                            • djjerme
                              R3V Elite
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5082

                              #89
                              Originally posted by bradnic
                              Sounds like you have the early model euro valance
                              Post pics before folks start jumping to the wrong conclusions
                              This.


                              There is two distinctly different Euro metal valances, and anything that is designed for one (Alpina, Hartge, M-tech, Jimmy Hill Lip..etc.) WILL NOT work on the other. At all.
                              1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
                              2016 Ford Flex
                              2011 Audi A3 - wife's other German car

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                              • bradnic
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 3550

                                #90
                                Exactly. Post pics. These guys sell both the 83-85 1 piece euro (angles in) and the 85-87 flat euro valance. There's a 2 piece early euro as well, where the strip above the bumper is a separate component
                                I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

                                HOWTOs:
                                DB vert plastic bumpers
                                OEM Keys
                                MTech1 docs

                                88 ix Lach/Card
                                91 ic Calypso 3.1
                                86 Cosmo 2.7

                                OEM+ or bust!


                                reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
                                TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
                                e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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