How really fast is a S52 or M50 E30...

[Fidhle007]

some one sell me a s52 obd1 right now.

Sure. $10,000 and it's yours, installed.

[Wh33lhop]

Sure. $10,000 and it's yours, installed.

...Not including plane tickets, hotel and dining costs. "Bought, not built" can finally ring true.

[MIKe30]

No way you beat a 335i. I did a rolling start against one at 60 and it spanked my s52 once we got around 85. It pulled away like a rocket.

If he beat an e46 m3, he beat the 335i.

some one sell me a s52 obd1 right now.

I'll sell you an obd2 s52. Needs work right now, it's why I haven't pushed my f/s thread on it. pm if you're serious.

[Mr Two]

a stock 335 would take a stock s50- e30. I thought a e30 s50 swap would take this old man out in a new 535ixt until I got put in my place, and no I didn't tell my customer.

ps it was from a light and traction was a bit of a issue to note. e30 had zf trans and 325 diff.

I really can't say how a stock S50 swapped e30 would perform, as I'm making significantly more power and have some pretty decent weight reduction, but some rough math gives the e30 a better power to weight ratio than a stock 335i at least. That 535ix should have got eaten due to the awd drivetrain loss and extra weight.

[BeirBrennerE30]

some one sell me a s52 obd1 right now.

I may have an OBD1 s52 with e46 m3 6 speed all ready to drop in an e30 for sale soon. Interested?

[Devin1205]

The machine work alone on the head of a 24v motor is going to be $1k, pistons are $1200 at least and those are just the two of the many things. Now you still have to take everything apart and put it back together again...

The major flaw in "replacing only what's needed" is the liability it puts on you. Let's say you only replace half of the valve guides and then return the motor to the customer. It then starts smoking because something you thought was "Close but OK" finally gave up the ghost and now the customer is pissed and wants you to fix it for free. I'm not saying that's going to happen every time but in this economy I can't afford to rebuild people's motors for free.

You must be the monkey that "rebuilt" the motor on the 3.0 we're currently restoring. It was taken to a shop for a "restoration" and they proceeded to hone the cylinders with the pistons still in, mash the timing gear onto the crank 15˚ off (it's keyed, not splined) install the oil pump backwards. It was a reputable shop too...

We're now in the rescue process and by working quickly and pricing our time fairly we will be able to give the the customer a 100% perfect motor for only a fraction more of what an "engine builder who gets paid good" (yes, that's what you said, did you skip out of grade school or something?)

Your right we should get in the habit of selling new cars everytime a car needs its belts changed, we don't want to be liable for fixing a car. I also must be a monkey since I don't resort to name calling when i'm incorrect. Your the man!:bow:

[Devin1205]

Thats weird. I have raced me driving my e30 s52 against a friend driving my stock 135i and the e30 barely took it (from a roll). the 335 and 535 are each a little slower than the 135 so a well set up e30 s52 can take them... but its close

I have no doubt that happened but once on a roll our e30s do much better in the traction area. its hard to take a awd turbo from a stop...

[Stu]

No way you beat a 335i. I did a rolling start against one at 60 and it spanked my s52 once we got around 85. It pulled away like a rocket.

Yes way, and not just once, and not a "well maybe he was a lousy driver" situation. I ran several 335i coupe/sedans in my 3liter 318is with favorable results. I didn't have a slapped together swap with a junkyard 3litre, the engine was a blueprinted build and even with stock cams, it had a very aggressive horsepower curve even past 7000. I would have put that car against any stock 335i/135i anyday, from any speed, especially sustained high gear pulls.

and he mentioned he did that with the M42?

Negative, see above. Current 318is has a lightly built M42.

some one sell me a s52 obd1 right now.

That extra 4mm of stroke won't change your world. ;) 86x85.8 M50's are very capable.

[bimmer_E30]

Sure. $10,000 and it's yours, installed.

10,000? maybe if i sell some more drugs :)

...Not including plane tickets, hotel and dining costs. "Bought, not built" can finally ring true.

Lol i am not rich, i just get insane deal. and don't pass em up :)

I may have an OBD1 s52 with e46 m3 6 speed all ready to drop in an e30 for sale soon. Interested?

How much are we talking about? Pm Me.

i am worried because i might go to jail for this, i think cops here if they find out i have a swapped engine, they will think it's stolen or somthing. Of course unless there is somthing that proves the ownership of the Engine.

[Fidhle007]

Your right we should get in the habit of selling new cars everytime a car needs its belts changed, we don't want to be liable for fixing a car. I also must be a monkey since I don't resort to name calling when i'm incorrect. Your the man!:bow:

Your logic is flawed there, because a belt can take a little as ten minutes to change. If it goes down the road because I didn't change a worn tensioner, that's ten free minutes that may have to be allotted in the future. That's a risk worth taking if a customer REALLY doesn't want to spend the extra $30 on a new pulley but even then I'd strongly recommend replacing it.

Something simple in the motor however is a no-brainer. Ten extra minutes and a few extra dollars now or 20-30 hours and very pissed off customer down the road? Which one sounds better for business to you? There's a reason why I referred to it as "the RIGHT way."

I'm not sure why you think I'm incorrect or calling you names, I'm simply stating that I've seen situations where rebuilds were half-assed and we've had to redo them, a process which is not cheap for the customer and could have been avoided altogether if everything had been done right in the first place.

[Fidhle007]

10,000? maybe if i sell some more drugs

I'm half serious. I have a line on an S52 and for the right price I can get it and install it for you. This would be through my shop, not some backyard shit so it wouldn't be cheap and probably would run close to $5k but it will be a truly professional install. I was kidding about the $10k. :D

Or bring me a car and a motor and I'll get it in there for you for even less money.

[bimmer_E30]

for 5k i will drive my e30 to your place in the summer lol.

[ak-]

10,000? maybe if i sell some more drugs :)
Lol i am not rich, i just get insane deal. and don't pass em up :)

for 5k i will drive my e30 to your place in the summer lol.

k.

[Be30mer]

I may have an OBD1 s52 with e46 m3 6 speed all ready to drop in an e30 for sale soon. Interested?

I am. How much?
6 speed s52 e30, that was my childhood dream! My teenage dream included a 55mm turbo.

[D-rock]

s50 or s52 what is best!?