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  • Luis325
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jun 2009
    • 3847

    #1

    24v stroker?

    Hey guys just wanted to know if anyone here has done a similar stroker and what opinions do you have and what type of gain/numbers can i expect? Im planing on building this or something similar for my vert next year...

    Starting with a 1995 M50 Vanos block with a S50 3.0 crank and rods, and M50 Vanos Pistons with notched valve reliefs and notched skirts, M50 Head with S50 cams and springs. Ebay short tube headers to a 2.25 double exhaust with borla [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]muffler[/COLOR][/COLOR] (no cat, no resonator) M50 Intake manifold, OBD1
    413 ECU with Turner Chip, Euro Maf, Lightweight Flywheel.


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  • RobertK
    Kicked cancer's ASS.
    • Jun 2005
    • 5864

    #2
    Sounds like you have the equivlent of a 2.9l stroker.. I think? I would expect ~stock S50 numbers maybe a little more.

    Honestly, I would have sourced some M54B30 pistons and built an all stroke 3.0l.

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    • ZM Blue Devil
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      • Dec 2006
      • 13836

      #3
      get a s52.
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      • e30rapidic
        R3VLimited
        • Oct 2003
        • 2167

        #4
        so that will be about a 2925cc?? So 90-95% of S50 power plus the mods of about 30hp???

        240-250hp maybe?
        '87 325ic, powered by S50.

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        • RobertK
          Kicked cancer's ASS.
          • Jun 2005
          • 5864

          #5
          Originally posted by e30rapidic
          so that will be about a 2925cc?? So 90-95% of S50 power plus the mods of about 30hp???

          240-250hp maybe?
          Sounds about right to me.

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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #6
            I'd just buy an S52 and call it a day. you might reach the same peak HP, but it won't have the same torque.
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            • trackjunkie21
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jan 2010
              • 3962

              #7
              Or get m54 internals, Bore stays the same but the stroke is greatly increased.
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              • dude8383
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                • Jan 2005
                • 10387

                #8
                Originally posted by trackjunkie21
                Or get m54 internals, Bore stays the same but the stroke is greatly increased.
                almost did this with my m50 block. would have been a sweet stroker.

                my 2.8l franken motor comprised of:

                m52 crank, rods, pistons
                s50 cams
                16lb flywheel
                stock injectors
                stock maf
                3 angle on the head
                ported the intake chambers and exhaust manifolds

                made 205 whp and 182lb ft of torxxx

                expect to make somewhere around that number.
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                • MrSlacker
                  R3VLimited
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2494

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dude8383
                  almost did this with my m50 block. would have been a sweet stroker.

                  my 2.8l franken motor comprised of:

                  m52 crank, rods, pistons
                  s50 cams
                  16lb flywheel
                  stock injectors
                  stock maf
                  3 angle on the head
                  ported the intake chambers and exhaust manifolds

                  made 205 whp and 182lb ft of torxxx

                  expect to make somewhere around that number.
                  Except then it blew up and you swapped an S52 like you should have done from the beginning. I drove dude8383's stroked M50 and S52 - you can definitely feel the difference so just go with S52 right away.
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                  • brokenbimmer533
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 317

                    #10
                    I did something similar to my m50NV

                    S52 crank
                    135mm Integrated Engineering Rods
                    8.5 cr wiseco pistons 84.5mm bore
                    oringed block and MLS head gasket
                    3 angle valve job
                    all new stock parts after that
                    Running megasquirt ems

                    3.0L if my math is correct.

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                    • slow95tsi
                      Advanced Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 131

                      #11
                      Im in the process of doing the
                      M50tu block
                      M52b28 crank and rods
                      M50tu pistons
                      .027 head gasket
                      S52 cams and trays
                      To make a high compression obd1 2.8
                      Still gathering parts now
                      But everyone that keeps saying buy a s5x doesn't realize we will be making very close to s5x power for ALOT less money

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                      • Adrian_Visser
                        R3VLimited
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 2823

                        #12
                        How much are you into it for as of this moment?

                        I paid $1600 for my s52, albeit it isn't freshly overhauled I don't think you'll be under that on your build. Add to your bill a tune specifically for your motor and I can't see you being under $2500.

                        '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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                        • Tchao
                          Wrencher
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 223

                          #13
                          I plan on buying a M50 for $300.
                          S50 crank for $200
                          S50 cams (Free, but lets say $150)
                          S50 rods (lets say $40)
                          CP Pistons 84.5mm ($900)

                          Machining $500

                          Tuning is free (but assume EMS to over do it....VEMS $800)

                          ~$2100 before EMS.

                          OR $2900 for a fairly built turbo ready BRAND NEW "S50 2.9L" seems a whole lot better then $2000 for a 140K miles who knows whats it been though real S50....just saying.

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                          • FredK
                            R3V OG
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 14747

                            #14
                            But to be BRAND NEW you'd need:

                            Main bearings $100
                            Rod bearings $50
                            Rod bolts $60
                            HG kit $150
                            Lower gasket set $60
                            Timing rails $50
                            Timing chains $60
                            Timing chain tensioner $80
                            Timing chain tensioner upper $60
                            Head bolts $20

                            $720

                            It is definitely better to have a zero mile engine than to have a 140K mile "who knows what" engine, but it definitely costs more than the cost of the rotating assembly to build up a new engine.

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                            • Robotin
                              R3V Elite
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 4471

                              #15
                              ive heard of people taking m50 blocks and putting s52 shit in it..

                              but thats all i know...
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