CAlifornia BAR/SMOG/engine swap thread.

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  • _Keith_
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    Originally posted by mr2peak
    When I did my research, I remember reading that the engine "had to function in the same way as it did in the donor car, complete from intake to exhaust".

    That said, the wording in the article here states that you can't tamper with emissions equipment, and doesn't specifically state exhaust headers, although it is implied.

    Here's the article, a very helpful resource.
    http://www.bar.ca.gov/Consumer/Engin...uidelines.html
    Thank you

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  • 2mAn
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    nice, I think as long as the other equipment is there you should be fine. for me the biggest thing is wiring up the CEL (which Im almost done with, courtesy of the helpful people in the thread)

    besides that most people seem to have a charcoal canister missing, no cats, silicone elbow, 3.5" MAF.. if you have mostly OEM equipment I think you'll be fine

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  • _Keith_
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    Yes the 506 is the s50 ecu.
    I've actually got another set of headers I'm going to have welded up.

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  • 2mAn
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    Originally posted by _Keith_
    Still wondering about this.
    I've converted the s52 to obd1 swapped the valve cover to a s50, but I have s52 headers on it with block off plates. Using a 506 ecu.

    Looking for feedback from others with similar setup that are now bar ref'd
    Better hope they don't see those block off plates. I have the obd2 manifolds also but mine have the SAI ports welded shut and I painted the manifolds with a high temp exhaust paint. They look OEM.

    Also, you mentioned the ecu, I've heard they check the VIN on the ecu so you want to make sure that your story matches the VIN on the ecu. I don't know about the 506 is that a S50 ecu?

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  • mr2peak
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    Originally posted by _Keith_
    Still wondering about this.
    I've converted the s52 to obd1 swapped the valve cover to a s50, but I have s52 headers on it with block off plates. Using a 506 ecu.

    Looking for feedback from others with similar setup that are now bar ref'd
    When I did my research, I remember reading that the engine "had to function in the same way as it did in the donor car, complete from intake to exhaust".

    That said, the wording in the article here states that you can't tamper with emissions equipment, and doesn't specifically state exhaust headers, although it is implied.

    Here's the article, a very helpful resource.

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  • _Keith_
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    Originally posted by _Keith_
    So what did those of you with a s52 do? I have the 506 ecu, I'm also wondering about ob2 headers installed with block off plates.
    Still wondering about this.
    I've converted the s52 to obd1 swapped the valve cover to a s50, but I have s52 headers on it with block off plates. Using a 506 ecu.

    Looking for feedback from others with similar setup that are now bar ref'd

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  • Wanganstyle
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    Originally posted by pandaboo911
    Yes and a CEL happens to be required for BAR. Hence why this is relevant info for those who don't have a CEL wired.
    /facepalm
    perhaps start a:

    "I can't read wiring diagrams very well center for children-thread? just make sure its not sized for ants or Zoolander will be upset :P

    if one takes the effort to swap in a 24v engine but does not wire up a function like CEL you must be running a lemons car and not really care if the sensors go out; lemons cars are diagnosed with black magic.

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  • 36brua
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    Originally posted by 2mAn
    Ive been wanting to repurpose my brake lining light because its already in the cluster, and the wiring for it is literally right next to my c101. It has two wires. I had planned on connecting one of the two to the x20 pin8 IIRC, and to ground the other but someone told me that wouldnt work
    check engine light needs switched hot which your brake lt. should be, and ground goes to DME pretty sure I also used pin 8 in x 20 harness. I just did this to update from an 86 cluster - no chk eng lt. to later cluster with chk enging 'label' in red warning lt area left of steering wheel. Or just find another bulb/socket and one wire to hot, and run ground to DME chk your C101 for existing pin . I had to add one in empty pin 8 on my C101. Check your wiring diagrams.

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  • pandaboo911
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    Yes and a CEL happens to be required for BAR. Hence why this is relevant info for those who don't have a CEL wired.
    /facepalm

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  • mr2peak
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    You should go ask those questions in another thread, this thread is for California BAR stuff

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  • 2mAn
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    Ive been wanting to repurpose my brake lining light because its already in the cluster, and the wiring for it is literally right next to my c101. It has two wires. I had planned on connecting one of the two to the x20 pin8 IIRC, and to ground the other but someone told me that wouldnt work

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  • mr2peak
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    ^ That's a signal wire. The other goes to ground.

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  • 2mAn
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    Ive been in the planning stages of the check engine light forever. The fact that its one wire confuses me (im a retard when it comes to wiring obviously)

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  • mr2peak
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    I didn't have any documentation when I BAR'd my MR2. As long as it's not stolen you should be fine.

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  • efficient
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    Originally posted by Steven
    Any idea on what documentation you need for where you bought the engine/engine in general? Aka I have no documents on the engine because I got it in pieces.
    I've always wondered this. I asked awhile back on the forum and just got told to look it up on the dmv website, I did a search didn't find anything
    Last edited by efficient; 01-29-2015, 08:41 PM.

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