CAlifornia BAR/SMOG/engine swap thread.

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  • E30335i
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    Where’s the guy who passed his obd2 24v swap?


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  • wworm
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    oh good to know.

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  • kronus
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    For obd1 nothing before the maf matters. 100% shown to me in the rule book by a referee with a whole baseball bat up his ass regarding everything else.

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  • wworm
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    Originally posted by MuhTorks
    Going to get tested in a week, wish me luck!
    might be a good idea to try and run a factory airbox/smog legal air intake. I've heard they can be real sticklers about everything.

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  • 36brua
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    Originally posted by MuhTorks
    Going to get tested in a week, wish me luck!
    Passing BAR might be a challenge if you have long tube headers on the car per your other thrd GL !

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  • MuhTorks
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    Going to get tested in a week, wish me luck!

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  • jayuuey
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    my experience

    OBD1 s50 swap notes:

    Don't buy used cats.
    No need for CARB approved intake for OBD1 but use OE intake boot.
    EVAP test (LPFET) was marked N/A after confirming a proper seal was not possible on the E30 style gas cap. (failed for this initially but got confirmation from 5 pretest smog shops)
    As usual, drive for 30 mins on the freeway before going onto the rollers.
    Swap should look "clean" in the engine bay. No excessive exposed wiring, etc.

    Took me three tries to finally get through the process.

    Jay

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  • wworm
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    ^awesome to hear! What station did you go to?

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  • SnowB0und
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    Wanted to post about my BAR experience. The process isn't bad at all, I didn't pass because I didn't have the speed sensor wire hooked up to the ECU (I was told the M50NV wasn't looking for it... totally wrong) I also barley failed on emissions, but they ran the test after it sat for 20 minutes. I hooked up the wire, paid for a smog pre test locally and passed emissions with flying colors when its warmed up for a few minutes. He also scanned the computer and confirmed it was hooked up. I've got an appointment next Wednesday, I'm hoping for a pass!

    TLDR; Hook everything up even if others say its not needed.

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  • 2mAn
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    Originally posted by PacificExposure
    Anyone know which charcoal canister I need to install in my OBDI S50 for the BAR inspection? Anyone have one lying around?
    Originally posted by mtech325
    In my experience at the BAR Ref (2 different 24v cars), the stock e30 canister has been acceptable.
    Stock E30 worked for me too

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  • mtech325
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    Originally posted by PacificExposure
    Anyone know which charcoal canister I need to install in my OBDI S50 for the BAR inspection? Anyone have one lying around?
    In my experience at the BAR Ref (2 different 24v cars), the stock e30 canister has been acceptable.

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  • PacificExposure
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    Anyone know which charcoal canister I need to install in my OBDI S50 for the BAR inspection? Anyone have one lying around?

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  • 2mAn
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    Or they could just continue the 25 year rule that was originally supposed to happen...

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  • earthwormjim
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    Originally posted by Brian697
    Absolutely agree - it should be pretty simple: If the required equipment is there, and
    the ECU is not throwing codes, and it passes the emissions test = approved.

    The Referee that I went to did know what he wanted and needed in terms of the dealer invoice and the ability to reset the sensors in the ECU (thanks to Nick Owen at BMW of El Cajon for the inspection and invoice, and to Dave Markert for enabling the sensors in the ECU).

    He also said that with the newer engines, there is sooo much complexity in terms of sensors and algorithms, that CARB is probably going to stop allowing engine swaps.

    So, to all you guys who have a project in process, get 'em finished and approved before they eliminate that option!

    Best of luck to you on Thursday!
    Would that leave us with the hotrod option as the only possible legal swap method?

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  • wworm
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    shoot. Thanks for the heads up.

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